thanks for all good input
for me the object not to hurt back or knees. as you get older these injury stay with you. i have a tatem kayak but daughter now as her own kayak i’ll get a solo light weight. .for safty reasons i like to be able to tie down front and back of kayak to car. i would not want any body to get hurt or suited over kayak blown off car.it funny how many people follow so close to a vehicle that if something broke would put there life at stake. wells thanks ,i may get one more summer out of the 1989 olds cutless’