Good post
An 11 liter bear barrel weighs about 2 and a half pounds, and someone is trying to say that is too much trouble, so instead he’s going to carry at least 8 pounds of shotgun and ammunition, and kill an animal that isn’t really threatening him, instead?
11 liters is available.
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Yeah, that’s about the size of it. It’s the principle of it all…we rule the earth, not bears. Bears were never a problem until the granola freaks taught that they can take food from humans. I look at it as my duty…to re-educate bears that have learned from granola pussies. It’s too bad too because it’s not the bears fault, but I’ve had to pop bears in 7 states because of what morons teach them. Oh, and my shotgun weighs 9 pounds loaded with 7 slugs.
I hope you are kidding
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The bear you kill hasn't learned anything. The bear you scare away, on the other hand, has. I've heard of people "teaching" bears to stay out of camp with a slingshot, and you could carry your shotgun since it makes you feel good but still avoid killing bears, and you'd be doing the bears and the next campers a favor. Meanwhile, the next people use your camp have a stinking carcass to deal with.
By the way, it isn't granola heads who teach bears to look for food in camp, it's people with no common sense who put their food in Rubbermaid coolers and the like, from which bears learn how easy it is to get food. Bears are only looking for food, but if they can't figure out how to get it, there's no reward that teaches them to try the same thing next time. In canoe-camping country, nobody with any sense is feeding bears intentionally or willingly giving the bears a reason to keep coming back for food, but anyone who makes their food available (Rubbermaid coolers keep coming to mind) is the culrpit. You are deluding yourself if you believe otherwise.
Anyway, if you are not kidding about this, you are just an outlaw, by any normal definition. The first time the DNR catches you, you will lose your shotgun, probably your car and/or canoe (they can and will legally confiscate darned near any equipment that you make use of to carry out the crime, even your mode of transportation to and from the location), and they will definitely revoke your hunting and fishing privileges. How great a fine you will be charged is something you'd have to look up yourself - I have no clue about that part. Of course, I assume you are not stupid (though that's probably too generous of an assessment regarding a person who keeps his food in a Rubbermaid cooler when in bear country) in which case you already know that the DNR will slap the cuffs on you if they find out, which makes you one sneaky and arrogant SOB.
But then again, I hope you are kidding, but on that note, nobody likes a troll either.
Here's another thought though. Your statement that bears were never a problem until granola heads let them learn to take food from us is bone-headed malarkey. In "the old days", ALL animal predators were constant pests which stole from our predominantly rural population all the time, in spite of the fact that they were hunted incessantly because there were no hunting seasons and bag limits, and no protected species. Examples of these include foxes, weasels, mink, ALL species of hawks and owls, and in places where the woods had not yet been leveled, bears. The reason? We made food too easy for them to get. Chickens ran around in the yard and roosted at night in the trees or in open-door coops, and if there were larger predators around, the larger livestock were just as vulnerable and easy to take. NO amount of hunting ever stopped ANY species from heavily relying on easy-to-get, human-provided food in those days, in some cases right up the point of their extirpation. That's what happened with wolves across most of their former range, and wolves are a lot smarter than bears. What's different about bears in "wild places" today is that that there are more people there, giving bears more opportunity to learn that we bring food with us and sometimes carelessly leave it accessible for them, NOT that we no longer put the fear of God in them with our guns. No amount of killing will stop the bears which have found easy pickin's from looking for more, just as it never stopped any other species in our history. It might make them more sneaky and less willing to meet us face to face, but it won't stop them from taking what we leave out for them. Keeping your food out of reach of bears, preferably in a way that means they don't even know it is there, makes more sense than anything else.
It would appear that you've never spoken to a person who knows much about wildlife behavior or the history of wildlife-human interactions, but if you think wildlife can be taught to not steal from us, read about Ernest Thompson Seton's experience hunting and trapping wolves. He was one of the premier wolf hunters in the country in his day, and was paid good money to travel clear across the continent to places with "wolf problems" and solve them (in those days, solving a wolf problem meant killing the wolf). He was was one of the premier naturalists of his day as well, and the record of his observations say a lot about how even the smartest, most human-averse animals will still steal food from us every time that we make it possible.
"we rule the earth"
Nuff said. mjflores opinion on topic = null.