Dromedary Bag in the Cockpit????

Northwater Bladder Anchor
Comes I pairs. Web daisy chain sewn onto hypalon. Glue in line along keel line starting in front if the seat. Puts the ballast weight right in line with the heaviest load in the kayak, the paddler.



See you on the water,

Marshall

The River Connection, Inc.

Hyde Park, NY

www.the-river-connection.com

hudsonriverpaddler.org

Great idea!
I have used them in a canoe before for tying down portage packs…never would have thought to use them in my kayak.



So what do you glue them in with? I have found Vynabond doesn’t work well on kevlar canoes, so not sure if it will work on fiberglass.



Matt

Padeyes, G-Flex, 1/4
1) Position the bag in the cockpit, extending from the front bulkhead toward the seat.



2) Mark padeye lash-points corresponding to those on bag on the inside hull on either side plus center front & back. Better to have too many than too few; you can always skip a set of padeyes. Be careful not to position the padeyes where your heels point in from the footpegs, and not too close to the sides where they can interfere with your legs.



3) Glue padeyes at lash-points plus center front & rear with G-Flex. Position the padeyes longitudinally at the sides (parallel with side seam of kayak) and front & rear center padeyes laterally (perpendicular to side seam).



4) Starting with the center padeye near the bulkhead, run 1/4" bungee cord side to side through padeyes & over bag in a diamond pattern. Skip the front center padeye. Position the knot(s) near the bulkhead, as 1/4" knots can impinge on your feet/legs, especially in a narrow or low-profile boat.



5) Weave a non-stretchy strap or rope front to back loosely through the bungees where they cross in the middle so you can grab & lift the bungees all together to slide the bag in or out.



6) Attach a strap or cord with hook to front center padeye, to attach to first bungee crossover once the bag is in place, to prevent the bag from sliding forward (toward the seat).

MSR bag mounting
I have mounted MSR 10m liter bags in the cockpit of my Epic V10S surfski and in the rear hatch of my Kaskazi Skua ARX and dumped both and the bags stayed in place.

I glued square back pack strap attachments I got from Campmor to both the V10S and Skua and used straps to hold the MSR bags in place.





For details see

http://www.kayakfishinghole.com/community/showthread.php?t=4278&highlight=Skua

Vynabond…
…Vynabond has worked well for me on two glass boats. I did have an initial failure on my second boat, a Tempest, when I took a casual approach to surface preperation. Once I prepped the area appropriately the mounting tab adhered really well.



Jon

3M 5200 or 4200
These seem to stick just about anything together.



Other options exist as well, I’m sure.



See you on the water,

Marshall

The River Connection, Inc.

Hyde Park, NY

www.the-river-connection.com

Hudsonriverpaddler.org

i DO NOT ROLL…
But I DO often carry a large MSR Dromadory bag under my thighs.

I laid the bag close to my seat where I wanted it (centered etc… then I marked the tie-down-holes in the bag.

Next I epoxied D-rings at those tie=down points.



All I have to do is to clip the bag to the d-rings and it stays secure.



As for rolling… I’m a rec-paddler so the word is foreign to me.

MSR bag mounting
My previous mounting link may not work

photo of my mounting an insulated Camelbak bag in my Epic surfski

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae140/joebh/IMG_1358.jpg

Photos of my mounting a MSR 10 liter bag in my Kaskazi Skua ARX inside read compartment with D ring mounting attachments

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae140/joebh/IMG_1541.jpg

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae140/joebh/IMG_1531.jpg



Both water bag mounting systems worked when I dumped my surfsi and Kaskazi.

The Kaskazi has dumped multiple times in the surf and the full water bag did not come loose

I always carry mine behind the seat
in the cockpit. Learned it from Steve Scherrer. Makes sense putting all the weight in the center of the boat. Don’t know why you’d want to put it anywhere else.

Dromedary bag placement
I mounted the MSR bag further back to move the Skua ARX CG rearward. The new model Skua ARX has a more rearward cockpit but the older model’s CG was too far forward which affected the handling with the rudder up.

Mounting the rearward mounted MSR bag improves the older model Skua handling and gives me a backup water source.