How good/bad is this fiberglass canoe

Yes, Mohawk made some nice canoes.

I talked to the owner over the phone. He cannot remember much and could not find its model name. But he said it is a fiberglass model that he bought about 25-30 yrs ago. The inside feels rough rather than smooth. So most likely it is at least partly made of chopped fiberglass again.

I remember reading Victor / Class Five 's post here, saying that they made Mohawk canoes in hand lay-ups starting 2008. That also suggests that the old canoe may be a chopped FG type.

Mohawk made good canoes. That it’s rough suggests a weave

Sorry for my newbie question, but what does weave mean? Good or bad? Better than chopped glass but worse than hand lay-ups? Much heavier than 65 lbs or much lower? What model is it? Would you buy it at $350? Thank you very much, @kayamedic

Fiberglass ( S glass usually) weave is very good. Hand Layup refers not to a material but a method… You lay the fabric then add the resin and squeegee out the excess.
Its usually lighter and stronger no matter what the material.
Fiberglass weave used to be the standard for quality canoes and it has to be a hand layup or an infusion… It is better then chopper gun layups due to the excess resin ( which does nothing structurally) being removed.

No picture, No opinion sorry.

Thank you.

This is the only picture I have. The seller is a senior person and seemed reluctant to get to the canoe (when I asked him if there is a model name or serial #), as it is hang on his garage ceiling. He may be able to get help from his son to get to the canoe, but we will have to wait till weekend. Canoe is not close to me either.

All the meaningful info I got was: 16’, fiberglass, inside feels rough, bought in late 80s or early 90s.

Is it a good buy for $350? Or should I ask for more pictures (if a specific view point is required), before we can opine on it?

You need to see the hull to answer your question looking for damage.
My guess it that is a good buy because he cared enough to keep it inside.

@string said:
You need to see the hull to answer your question looking for damage.
My guess it that is a good buy because he cared enough to keep it inside.

I thoughy garage was a mess!

Thank you, string.

Seller said: there is a scratch on one side (as seen in the photo), it is slightly dusty, and that they used it for about 10 times in total. It comes with roof foam blocks. That is all the description I have.

Does it look/sound like it is worth the driving to check it out in person?

My garage looks worse :-p

I’d already be there if I wanted a canoe. But I’m retired and like road trips .

My garage is worse too. My garage has more stuff but less on a per-square-foot basis (could be one way of saying that it is less organized). Anyway, Fat Elmo said he liked it.

Based on the photo, I’d drive a bit to have a closer look. I’d take the $350 with me.

Thank you, gents. I will check it out when we get a chance.

An old forum post from “thebob.com” quoting “Canoe magazine (1985) buyer’s guide” says:

“All Mohawk fiberglass canoes are built using multi-layer laminate of chopped & woven roving.
Select placement of layers in high wear areas.”.

https://forums.paddling.com/discussion/755883/mohawk-blazer

That sounds like a good thing.

Id go and take the $350 in fifty dollar bills. Haggle a little… Now where is it for our driving race… :smiley:
You have to understand that for a good deal canoe nuts will drive quite a ways… I drove 12 hours round trip for the last score…

I took $350 there but did not buy it.

It weights 68 lbs and is a 1993 Blazer 16 fiberglass model. Probably woven (current Mohawk person said it may be all chopper gun, though he was not sure). Rigidity is better than the no name FB boat I checked earlier for sure and 7 lbs less weight could be clearly felt.

Weight is ok for me to car top, but would love to have it at 60 lbs. I am 38 yo and 135 lbs, fit but not very athletic.

When I had the canoe on concrete floor and stood up on its inside bow section in front of the front seat, I heard a frightening cracking noise. Bottom has some scratches, though no obvious big cracks. Still, I did not feel confident about its hull integrity or durability (maybe wrongfully so, maybe that is what the design was). That was the maim reason why I passed it on, besides its asking price and weight/bulk.

Off topic: I received my 1963 Folbot Super (16’ tandem, which weights about 86 lbs) this afternoon and like its modularity. Can easily carry individual pieces. I am probably more of a folder /sectional kayaker.

All canoes will crack if stood on an unsupported section… Sorry but you shouldn’t have done that. I have done that to find out if I could kneel post surgery in my Wildfire… Horrific crack… it was the seat. the boat is fine. The seat did not crack but the normal integrity of how seat meets hull was compromised by kneeling in a boat that was not in the water.

Sorry for my mistake. I thought that part was supported, but I could be totally wrong. I did that accidentally, when I tested front seat width and leg room. There was only concrete floor nearby, so we put some cloth underneath the canoe; that was probably not enough support though. I am a terrible plastic kayaker (my plastic kayak does not crack easily, so I have not formed good habits).

When I said crack I miswrote… Its not the canoe that cracked… The cracking sound comes from fittings seats gunwales etc. against each other

You likely did nothing to the boat… Composites are often tougher than plastic save for a wrap.

In my case, it might also be canoe’s bottom rubbing against sand particles or concrete floor. I did check it inside an out right after hearing the sound, but did not see any damage.