good list
consider adding the clove hitch. I do a lot of rock and ice climbing and it is one of the three or four that I regularly use. I often use it paddling as well, probably my favorite knot.
In the case where the
eye is small, sometimes the simple solution is the best. An easy stopper knot, even an overhand knot can work great. A double overhand is bigger and a little nicer looking IMO. If you want to untie it later, a simple Figure 8. Again, test it to ensure it can’t pull through.
Personally, I’d probably use a Buntline Hitch in this case.
jim
that 'biner…
has a small gate that makes it hard to use when it gets lively on the water.
see attached link to photo’s for 'biner and hitch/hog ring to attach.
good luck
http://www.nspn.org/forum/index.php?autocom=gallery&req=si&img=356
Nice info
That Figure 8 follow-through is a nice knot, I just tied it a few times and like it. For the application I would still probably go for the Buntline hitch, as it seems a little less bulky and less likely to hang up on stuff. BTW, large size heat-shrinkable (with a heat gun) electrical insulation makes a good covering for knots - I loathe electrical tape.
splice is way overkill
when you can just whip
whipping
I think it’s worth learning how to whip a line, so I’ll try it. I actually have a set of those little cards with different knots on them and one of them shows how to whip. Whipping is reversible (with scissors or a knife) if I ever need to untie line, and no tape residue. So just for fun . . . .
Start off with a climber’s "quickdraw"
It’s a short sling that holds the 'biner securely so it can’t slip through the knot and end up with the knot on the back, gate or wrong end. Then tie the quickdraw to the end of the tow line with knot of your choice. You can see how I do this in my “Northwater Tow Rig Modifications” album on Webshots at the link below. It’s the last photo on the second page of the album.
http://community.webshots.com/user/brian_nystrom-reg
biner attachment
Brian, my new carabiners have an eye to thread the line through. Old biner would have taken a quick draw; new biners won’t, I think.
Question: what’s that knot you used to attach your line to the carabiner before you used a quick draw? It looks neat and tight.
G
Seconding Buntline Hitch
I use a buntline hitch for most loops I do not expect to have to untie frequently.
Nice tow set-up BN
I don’t know if that has a formal name I’ve never seen that before, but it looks to me like it is what I would call a double-overhand slip knot. It also looks like the carabiner has two wraps around it (if so, why is that BN?)
(What a bunch of knot geeks are we!
another
The Simple Simon Under
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_simon_under
Technically a bend. Very secure, easy to tie and untie, good with different size lines and slippery lines.
I use it to tether my radio among other things.
If you have an eyelet on the 'biner…
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...the quickdraw would be unnecessary anyway, as the primary purpose of using it is to maintain the 'biner position. With an eyelet, the 'biner can't move. A secondary function of the quickdraw is as a semi-rigid handle that's easier to grasp than the rope, but it's not a huge consideration.
As jbernard surmised, the knot is essentially a double overhand tied around the standing end to form a slipknot. You could also think of it as a hangman's noose with fewer turns. Here's how to tie it:
1- Feed the rope through the 'biner/quickdraw/eyelet. EDIT: If you're tying directly to a /biner, wrap the end around the 'biner an extra time before proceeding to the next step.
2- Cross the end over the standing line.
3- Wrap the end back over itself two (or more) turns.
4- Feed the end up through the resulting loops.
5- Pull the whole thing tight, paying particular attention to getting the over-wraps as tight as possible.
Although this is a slipknot, it will not loosen if it's pulled very tight, though checking it periodically is a good idea. It tends to stay in position quite well on the end of a 'biner.
Cool!
Thanks, Brian. I’ll try that one.
Brian’s slip knot
Comparing your directions to the pictures in your Webshots album, I think there are 2 more steps after
no. 5. After no. 5 you pass the end of the rope back through the biner or through the eye and then you bring the end back down through the first loop. Pull tight.
That produces something that looks like the picture and doesn’t slip. Just following your first 5 steps I get something that slips and that isn’t doubled in the biner. Make sense? Anyway, it seems a good knot!
For you knot folk…A trivia ?
What is a Dog-n-tail and when would you use one???
That’s not quite correct…
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...but neither was my description. I was thinking of the knot I used to tie to a quickdraw, not a 'biner. The difference is that when tying to a 'biner, I pass the end through the biner (step 1), wrap it an extra turn around it , then proceed to step 2. The extra wrap makes the knot less likely to slip "around the corner" on the shape of 'biner pictured. When tying to a quickdraw, the extra turn isn't necessary and I only go through the loop once.
I've made a note of this in the instructions. I also verified the instructions by re-tying the knot on a throw bag I have handy.
I’m surprised
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Well you’re using the trick name. Maybe if you let loose other names it’s known by.
It is apparently a hitch…
and similar to the prusik hitch, is used to grab a rope.
“Unlike the prusik hitch however, it can be released while under tension by untying the square knot at the end and slowly releasing the wraps.”
Never need to untie the end knot
Can load it dramatically and simply slide it effortlessly either direction. Egyptians used the knot and I used in in crevasse rescues in the Alaska Range where a prussik or camming device would ice up. Dog-n-tail would grab the iciest rope, yet slide easily with mitten covered hands when unladen.