Sold! Thanks, Jimmy!
Go with the SCORPIO… i love mine. Flat water to waves.
When we were initially considering the Scorpio and the roughly 17’ Valley (Etain maybe…) a poster mentioned that his buddy did a trip down the West coast - from Canada to Mexico - in a Scorpio and was well satisfied with the boat.
We have owned both Tempest 165 and 170 models and there is a night and day difference between them and the Scorpio MVs we now own. The poly P&H kayaks have much stiffer plastic than the WS or Dagger kayaks and feel much more responsive on the water. We have also owned the Dagger Alchemy 14S and 14L in the past which have been replaced with the new P&H Virgo MV. I noticed that the Valley Etain 17.5 RM was mentioned and have owned that model also. Personally, I prefer the handling of the Scorpio MV over the Etain RM. The Scorpio has higher primary stability than the Etain and, since our poly kayaks are mainly used as spares for guests to use, beginner friendliness is an issue.
Thank you, rdpeterson.