Sold! Thanks, Jimmy!
When we were initially considering the Scorpio and the roughly 17’ Valley (Etain maybe…) a poster mentioned that his buddy did a trip down the West coast - from Canada to Mexico - in a Scorpio and was well satisfied with the boat.
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We have owned both Tempest 165 and 170 models and there is a night and day difference between them and the Scorpio MVs we now own. The poly P&H kayaks have much stiffer plastic than the WS or Dagger kayaks and feel much more responsive on the water. We have also owned the Dagger Alchemy 14S and 14L in the past which have been replaced with the new P&H Virgo MV. I noticed that the Valley Etain 17.5 RM was mentioned and have owned that model also. Personally, I prefer the handling of the Scorpio MV over the Etain RM. The Scorpio has higher primary stability than the Etain and, since our poly kayaks are mainly used as spares for guests to use, beginner friendliness is an issue.
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Thank you, rdpeterson.
Old post, but I wanted to chime in since I have a Tempest 170, and just bought a Scorpio MV. Originally, I had planned on selling the Tempest, but now, I don’t think so. One very annoying thing with the Scorpio how it handles when paddling into waves. The bow tends to ride up and then slam down hard. The Tempest only does this with VERY large waves. Otherwise, it cuts through them like butter.
The Scorpio has more primary stability, which, IMO, makes it feel a little sluggish when edging. OTOH, the Scorpio seems to turn a little easier and is a bit more maneuverable. Speed wise, I’m not sure, but the Tempest feels faster,
My Scorpio is brand new, and I’m already having trouble with the skeg. It drops down fine, but pulling it back up takes extreme force.
I don’t know. The Scorpio is a nice boat, but I already have a Virgo. Not really sure it was worth buying it.
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