same EXACT thing happened to me when i listed a drysuit. the whole purpose is to get your banking info when you try to deposit the "email echeck’. don’t ever give your banking info and just insist on them wiring you a check and sending it via western union. you will then never hear from them again.
Just got an offer today for my kayak I’m selling, from Fort Carson…echeck…shipper will pick it up…needs my full name and address…LOL!
All genuine prospective buyers from Ft. Carson must feel totally screwed.
The echeck sounds shakey unless they are willing to wait as long as it takes for your bank to guarantee its legitimacy. I’d prefer a more secure payment option. But wouldn’t a shipper need a name and address, or are they just supposed to cruise around Ft. Carson looking for a kayak. The buyer, if legitimate, is taking a risk too.
2 people wanted to buy my Specialized bike using a courier to pick up…i blocked them…THEN yesterday i asked for a deposit for my used kayak sale…i was going to deliver it out of province…the guy talked about some scam thing…frankly if im delivering a kayak that far. I see no problem trying to get a deposit when something is 1000.gas costs alot of money! I suspect tfe guy never had the money in the 1st place!
Btw it’s Linda Baron! Long time no hear from eh?
A very long time. I hope you are doing well.
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Im getting older…we all r…i think Andy S has been having some issues…im leaving Canada…never thought i would ever want to but our PM has destroyed our great country prolly beyond repair!
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Well, I guess I’m the latest sucker. Contacted by Payton Hoffman saying he was buying for step-son. Casher’s Check will be sent to cover boat and shipper. When it arrived, took it to bank and asked, “When will check clear,” and “When can I issue checks on funds.” I was told, by what I now learn was a new teller, that check is cleared now, and you can issue checks immediately. Went back to post office and purchased 4 postal money orders in amount of $3500. Sent them out priority mail, then got suspicious and went back to bank and asked how they know check is valid and cleared. Then they told me the check was fraudulent.
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ALERT!!! Payton Hoffman is scam. We communicated for 3 weeks. He asked me to remove the listing of our brand new kayak from Padding but we did did not remove it He sent me a check yesterday and I strongly felt something was not right He asked us to take a picture or check for $3,750 including shipping thru mobile for deposit so I told him we were on the way to Bank and we showed the check to the manager. He said it was no good and fraud!!! If deposited, he will take all of funds from our account Thank Jesus for protecting our accounts. Maybe his name is fake???
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No checks.
No shipping.
Period.
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I have gotten offers from Ft Carson. totally questionable.
Now I am trying to sell a car. I get lots of interest and some offers. When it comes time to meet people are elusive and will not divulge their address, phone no or DL number.
I tell them we can meet at the local Sheriff’s office and I never hear from them again. This has happened about 5 times.
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Absolutely! Cash is king and payable upon delivery.
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Finally an apparently honest person has stepped forward. It takes a lot of patience and vigilance.
This week there has been a run of fake ads for some higher end “used kayaks” that are targeting Facebook paddling groups. Seller uses the name “Okoye Kyle Sharon” and so far one fellow member of a folding kayak group I’m in was scammed out of $450 he PayPalled for what he thought was a legitt early model Trak with a lot of extra parts. He’s already filed a claim with PPal, but pretty bummed. We found 3 other ad posts on 2 groups for Feathercraft, Jackson and Itiwit kayaks so this scammer is focusing on us paddlers as a market. I admit the name sounded jinky enough to me — I hate to profile, but I recognized “Okoye” as a common surname in Nigeria, which is a notorious hub for scammers. This scammer rapidly deleted his/her profile as soon as the mark sent the payment, but, as we know from the recurrence of the repeat scammers on P.com, the jerks will tend to cling to and recycle their faked profiles and IDs. So be careful out there.
This is why you ask for a teller’s check from a major bank.
they’re immediately verifiable. You go into the bank it’s drawn on and say cash it.
I know from PNC bank the tellers checks actually emboss the check with the amount (looks like they printed on giant dot-matrix printers dimple the checks for all printings on them.
but yeah that’s a hassle on my part, so Cash if you are coming in person, if I’m shipping to you and you send a check it’ll be 14 business days before I ship. and if you are sending someone to pick up or are coming yourself, CASH or tellers check and you can meet me at the bank to have that tellers check converted into cash.
Either type of check can be counterfeited. You can usually call the issuing bank to verify that the check is genuine and good. Call the bank directly. If the check has their phone number on it, do not use this but instead call the bank’s official phone number from a trusted source.
If the buyer can go with you to the issuing bank to cash it, there’s no reason why they couldn’t bring cash to begin with.
According to Wells Fargo, it can take a bank weeks to determine if a check is fraudulent.
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the point you are missing, is if it’s a tellers check I do not need to deposit it.
I can walk in to the bank it’s drawn on and get cash that day, I do not need to open a bank account.
Present check, Ask for cash, they hand you cash. done. If it’s fraudulent or not doesn’t matter at that point.
Tellers checks are demand instruments so it’s on the bank to verify on the spot.
If you bought a house your down payment was in the form of a tellers check this is completely different than a bank check, or note, or personal check.
basically this is the method you use for same as cash but it can;t be used if lost or stolen.
If the bank cannot verify it for whatever reason, they will not give you cash for it.
You do not have to deposit a check if you are cashing it at the bank that it was drawn on. I have presented a check for cash plenty of times. All the bank required was valid ID and their determination that the check was legitimate.
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and again how am I wrong here? you are not releasing the item until you have cash in hand from the check.
This is the point you and everyone here is missing.
those are the terms the buyer has to live with it or stuff it. Period hard stop.
Doesn’t matter if he sends an agent with a check to pick up, we go and cash the check then he gets the boat. not until the monetary instrument is converted to cash and that is in hand does he get the item. He doesn’t agree then too bad so sad.
There may be many reasons for him to send a check with his agent, but as long as you don’t do the dumb then it doesn’t matter.
caveat venditor
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“Everyone” is a lot of people. I’m quite sure they are not all missing your point. Some may not agree, but that doesn’t mean they’re missing something.