Upgrade from iPhone 11 to 11 Pro for better impromptu wildlife / bird pics?

you tell them smoking bad for them :slight_smile: LOL

The iPhone 11 is an amazing camera, it really is just that good. But… if you think you’ll want the telephoto, get it. But don’t think it is for birds or wildlife, it is still pretty lame for that.

I have an iphone 8, but I always have my small Nikon 200 5X optical tele water proof to 59 feet with me in a top pocket or pfd pocket when I am going paddling or fishing or walking in the woods. It cost me $200 when i bought it. It has wifi and gps as well. I bought it back in 2013. I think it is 16 mega pixel. I attach it to a gear keeper or run the strap through a button hole so if I drop it I don’t loose it. I don’t think I could free dive to 59 feet though I use to go down 30+ when I was young. it’s about the size of a pack of cigarettes. Smaller than the phone, but thicker and weights more. when it dies I’ll will replace with a newer model.

Looks like the Nikon coolpix 300 is $387 waterproof to 100 feet, shockproof to 8 feet with both bluetooth and wifi, GPS depth gauge, altimeter, ecompass, 4K Ultra HD videos, Time-lapse videos, Super lapse videos and music montages, plus more.

I have a “CoolPix” as well but a couple of years newer. It’s pretty good for what it is but far from perfect. Like most LCD screens it can be hard to compose a shot in bright sun light. Also, sometimes seems to be off on exposure and sharpness. Some is probably operator error as I’m usually somewhat busy when trying to take a shot from my canoe. Battery life is good as long as you keep the GPS off. It was a good thing that I took a spare on the Missinaibi as I made the error of starting with GPS on. The second battery was going strong after 8 days once I turned GPS off.

Get her a camera that has a viewfinder on it, you would be amazed what actually seeing where you camera is pointing does.

A camera that isn’t a fixed lens is also an attractive thing for wildlife. You can get pictures like this:

Impressive details. What camera was used for that?

I use a bridge camera for wildlife shots. It has a big range so your wildlife is less blobby… Took this from a boat at some 100 feet.
The bridge cameras have amazing zoom at the expense of small sensors. But if you get one wet it is not a budget breaker. They zoom to 60 x or so. But not waterproof. nor pocket size. I used a Canon SX70 HS

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The camera is an older Canon EOS T3i with an 18-135 adjustable lens.

You can probably find one for fairly cheap, seeing that it is three or four generations out of date.

Okay, a DSLR. I may get a DSLR someday, but would probably go for a bridge camera with a viewfinder first, for the relative compactness.

To the original question, I’m leaning toward upgrading the 11 to an 11 pro for the added 2x telephoto camera, even though I don’t want to give up an additional $300.

Might not help much with birds, but should help with insects, flowers and people.

Might even add a clip on optical 2x for greater magnification when the phone is the only camera that I have with me.

Their comment referred to the fact that the sensor for the 11 Pro 2x camera is smaller than the sensor for the 1x camera, so a 2x crop of of a photo taken with the 1x camera, may be of similar quality to a 2x photo taken with the 2x camera.

Sensor size is a factor, as well as the lens. I think that’s a factor in why the Night function only works with the 1x camera and not the wide angle or 2x cameras, which both have smaller sensors.

I stopped by the local Verizon store this afternoon and compared the 11, 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max - I definitely want the 2X telephoto - makes a big difference in picture quality when fully zoomed.

Now the decision is between the Pro or Pro Max.

I prefer the Pro Max for pictures and video.

I prefer the Pro for text - narrower columns and less left to right eye movement than on the Pro Max when held in the vertical position.

I do a lot or reading news and facebook on my phone, as well as taking pictures, so this is a difficult decision.

The Pro would fit in my current belt pouch and waterproof pouch that I use for the 6S. The Pro Max would require all new gear.

I’ll likely make a decision tomorrow.

I ended up buying the 11 Pro Max for the larger display while taking, viewing and editing photos and videos. It’s much bigger to tote around than the 11 Pro, but I do appreciate the larger screen.

The 2x telephoto and low light capabilities are significant improvements over the capabilities of the 6S that it’s replacing.

I have a lot to learn about the camera capabilities, operation and post processing.

I had no idea that the old 6S had many of the same editing capabilities as these new phones, or I would have at least done some cropping of many photos before posting or sharing over the last four years.

Now to order a case with external lens mounting capabilities and an additional 2x telephoto lens and macro lens to expand my options even more.

I’m pleased so far.

Now get into Moment and start digging… There is a LOT your phone can do that is not obvious without the app.

I’m probably going to order a Sandmarc 2x lens with lens mounting case today and will also get a photo processing app such as Procam or what Moment offers to allow seamless use of of the additional 2x lens over the native 2x lens.

The Moment brand 2x lens, lens caps and lens mounting case are nearly double the cost of Sandmarc to get started with the basics.

Those are the only two lens brands that I’ve identified, so far, that offer lens mounting cases as alternatives to the clip on mounts and both brands of lenses have great reviews.

Oh I was just referring to the Moment App… $5.99

I did try on a rose breasted grosbeak today and it seems that there is a lot of blur. I had it zoomed pretty close… I don’t think the 11 's have image stabilization and a tripod is needed… Which I do have but might as well use the bigger cameras.

I am learning a whole bunch from the app but if I remember how do use it in the field is another matter!

I haven’t had any image stabilization problems with either my old iPhone 6s or with my new 11 Pro Max using the native software on the phones.

Maybe try a similar situation using the native software, rather than the Moment software.

The image stabilization only works on the one X and 2X lenses on the iPhone 11 Pro and not on the white angle.

I just ordered this Shiftlens multi-lens kit from Shiftcam to try.

I opted for free shipping, which should take 7 - 14 days.