Slush puppy always has a sarcastic
remark and never any thing constructive.
Guy
With a Thulke, Yakama, Malone or
other high end racks you can mix and match.
For instance I have Yakama and I have J cradles, saddles, Hully rollers, gunnel brackets, ski racks, and bike racks.
Itās kind of difficult to put those on a factory roof rack, but I can take them on and off in a few minutes and carry kayaks, canoes, skis, and bikes.
Guy
Slushpaddler has often contributed
useful input to discussions. Youāre too new to know that.
Heās definitely contributed plenty of sarcasm, as well. Heās not alone in that respect.
BIG pool noodle
With my setup, I use the deck down/hull up method and use the bigger 3" pool noodles. These work better than any Yakama or Thule pads and NEVER have had a creased/dented side no matter how tight the strap. Check out the big box stores this time of year to get them on sale in the $3-4. each range. Second kayak goes on the J cradles.
I have been lurking long before ā¦
you ever came on P-net, and was lurking when Slushpuuppy decided that he could take over and belittle paddlers that would put him to shame.
Anyone that hides behind no profile is a shrimp in my estimation.
Guy
āBiggerā noodles and no creases
Well, itās nice that this method works for you, but I wouldnāt call it a one-size-fits-all method. A 3-inch diameter pool noodle isnāt bigger than normal; itās the only size pool noodle Iāve ever seen so Iād say itās pretty standard. Pool noodles are better than pipe insulation, but they still compress just about all that way in a short time if thereās much contact pressure, so the actual contact area still ends up being barely bigger than the bar. Maybe you have a tough boat, maybe your bars line up with bulkheads, maybe you donāt leave your 'yaks strapped as tightly or for as long or as in such hot weather as other folks do. All I know is that Iāve seen plenty of warped boats plastic where the dents line up perfectly with pool-noodle-wrapped crossbars. If the method works for you thereās no reason to change anything, but thereās no way one can say pool noodles provide ābetterā padding than any of the really nice cradles that are available, especially when you start talking about longer and more-fragile boats. Itās a matter of surface area, and nothing even comes close to providing as much surface area as hull-conforming pads.
Wrong guideboat
pool noodles also come in large sizes and this is the size I use:http://www.amazon.com/Big-Boss-Noodle/dp/B005ECAFMW/ref=pd_sim_sg_4
Have had 7-8 different SOT's from 12'-16' and never had a side compress, dent, or change shape and we are in hot summer weather here in Sacramento. Regarding pads..I think we are talking about 2 different pads. I'm talking about the Thule or Yakama bar pads which have a lace on one end and slide over the bar like these:http://www.rei.com/product/494126/yakima-crossbar-pads
Maybe you mean these? http://yakima.com/shop/camping/roof/mako-saddles-1pair