possibly
Most plastic boats, the seats are attached somehow, not molded (as some composite boats are). So they should be replaceable. I planned to replace one once and bought a new seat, but would start it and hit some road block and never did it. Finally sold the seat. But I am not as much of a tinkerer as I sometimes wish I was.
If you are going to drop $100 for new seat and then time to install, maybe it is better to just get the Manitou?
Seats
You really should check the weight guidance for the boat as previously mentioned. If you have to replace the seat and other components the boat is not that good a deal.It’s a 19yo boat.
How about
… they should pay you to take it off their hands?
Depends on what you want
You don’t mention where you’re located or your intended use. I think the Manitou is fine for putzing around the marina, ponds, & small lakes. I have one. It’s my lounging boat. It’s definitely comfy for that use. If you’re considering ocean use, IMHO the Tornak gets the nod. One of my Neckys (Arluk 2) had the black seat Peter mentions. I was in it for some 6 hour crossings & didn’t mind it at all, although some do, so YMMV. If they’re in good shape, either boat is ok to put a little $$ into to suit yourself, but I wouldn’t spend a lot.
Tornak?
Wasn’t that Spock’s father-in-law’s name?
Reasoning
Reason behind this comment?
Might
You know you might be right
mix
definitely so smaller lakes and ponds theyre all over. Also bigger lakes and the hudson river. I definitely would lake that boat give me some growing room in terms of skills and destinations. I am looking at the tornack tomorrow if I don’t like what i see the manitou sunday
FWIW
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I had a Necky some time ago, the only thing I recall is that the poly seemed a bit thinner than other boats. But I'd gotten it well-used and it never cracked or showed signs of failing. It did oilcan easily when it was on the rack, but that came out in the sun and heat. If you look at it, you might poke around as much as you can to see if any cracks are developing. Look at the hull bottom in particular.
If it's in good shape, why not? Little to lose.
Necky Eskia 16ft
There seems to still be a Necky Eskia 16 ft near me still around for 400. There is a chunk missing on the side and the foam in the bulk head is exposed. idk how much it would be to fix it.
http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/boa/5555230405.html
you can see it in the pictures on the stern i think it was the first pic. if thats not alot to fix id take it probably
missing rudder
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Eskias are supposed to be good boats. I personally don't fit in them (at 6' tall and 215#, with large legs from biking) so never paddled one myself.
That one looks like it had a rudder installed, and now removed. Hopefully they did it in such a way that the foot pedals can be used.
If you are in the Hudson Valley area, I'd go stop in and see Marshall at The River Connection in Hyde Park (www.the-river-connection.com). He is active here and has provided good quality, but balanced, responses from what I have seen. Even though he is a retailer and sells new, I think he would give you some good data to help on a used boat search.
Marshall
I haven’t been in to see him yet but he’s been helpful on the search. Doesn’t have anything I can afford right now but he pointed on this Tornak to me in another thread. I definitely want to get in on one of his skill building classes.
What’s with the qualifier?
P - Do I sense some bias? “Even though he is a retailer and sells new” and used, and consignment and a have a year round brick/mortar location and an ACA L4 Instructor and decided to make play and pay one letter apart some 17 years ago working for myself rather than a box. C’mon, I consider you the Kayaking West Coast Voice of Reason.
B - see you at the Tuesday Tune-Up or Monday Meetup Sessions.
See you on the water,
Marshall
The River Connection, Inc.
Hyde Park, NY
www.the-river-connection.com
fb.me/theriverconnection
Eskia
Way back when, I worked in a place that sold Necky of Yore. The Eskia was a good stable predictable sea kayak for the line backer build.
The back rest is lousy. Replace it with an IR Lounge Band or foam block.
The model on CL is missing the rudder but it looks like the cables are in place so switching it out with a new one wouldn’t be a big deal if you wish to add one.
Give the kayak a very good looking over. It appears that the HIN plate was cut away. I’m not sure why someone would cut away the HIN plate. Warranty issues would have been a proof of field destruction. Stolen at some point? A new section of polyethylene could be plastic welded into place. See YouTube for tutorials.
You mentioned a bulkhead out of place. Making a new one out of 4" thick mini cell foam is not tough. I have that in stock.
See you on the water,
Marshall
The River Connection, Inc.
www.the-river-connection.com
fb.me/theriverconnection
No offense intended
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Felt that because you are a retailer, I had to come out and make sure I said specifically that you are one. Not all retailers are as open minded about used boats as you seem. Haven't met you yet to know for sure. Maybe one day we will meet...
Ps - didn't know you sold used boats. Guess I would have if I visited your shop. My bad.
Too Old (nm)
Search continues
No go on the Tornak some oil canning on the bottom. Rutter was tough to move. Mostly the problem was the fit not enough room for my legs all well the search continues
Any news on the Eskia?
Did you visit the Eskia in person?
Stop in EMS Poughkeepsie and offer them $300 for one of their rental Tsunamis. Everything else at that joint is on sale. They might say yes.
See you on the water,
Marshall
The River Connection, Inc.
Hyde Park, NY
www.the-river-connection.com
fb.me/theriverconnection
In person
I did see it in person. I didn’t get a chance to sit in it because it started down pouring and I was nervous about that piece missing but that seems easy to fix now that pointed me in that direction he hasn’t gotten back to me if in still available but it was reposted to cl a few days ago. The rudder seemed like it would only need a blade the pedals and line were intact but I didn’t get to try it out. Now that you said the HID plate was missing and maybe it was stolen that makes me nervous too.
I’ll definitely stop by Ems and give it a try either today or tomorrow
I will endorse Marshall
I live about an hour away from his Hyde Park store and have taken several lessons from him. He is an expert paddler, patient instructor, and all-around, nice guy.
Until now, I’ve only bought gear from him as he sells higher end kayaks. That said, I am thinking about putting a few of my kayaks up for sale on CL. If I sell a few to make room, maybe I can convince my wife that buying ONE composite boat is a smart decision.
At the very least, I will be down to a reasonable number so I can transport them at the same time on my kayak trailer.
ABZ