Correction: Not lockable
But I still would have to remove the “horizontal bars” because they are lockable… oh well. 
Correction: NOT lockable!.. how come no one caught the mistake? You are no paying attention people
Car Rack not needed
Canoe thieves don’t have to have a car rack. Most drive pickup trucks–like me. The scenario might go something like this. A pickup driving punk like me just happens to park beside a boat-carrying car in a motel parking lot, Wal-Mart, shuttle point, or wherever. The punk didn’t drive there to steal a boat, but he thinks, “Nobody is looking and I could have that nice boat in my truck and be gone in 30 seconds.” If the kayak or canoe is not locked or alarmed in any way, it’s his. But if he sees that it is locked, alarmed, or guarded by a rotweiller, he figures it is too risky and leaves–usually. Anybody know where I can fence a few hot boats?
And ditto to the ditto
We bought two a few months ago and are extremely pleased with them. The cable is thick, as is the clear sheath, and I love the combo lock (sick of having too many keys!). They provide ample length so you can secure the kayak to the cradles and bars. Even on top of a long roof, we still had enough to wrap the cable around the bars several times.
Terrific product, worth every penny.
duno, but
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Does any body know where I could by a recently fenced hot boat.
The Master lock python cable lock!
I was going to post about. I have a master lock python cable lock. I can use it on my ladders or on my canoe to a tree. The vinal sleeve is nice, and the 10 mm cable is hefty. Yes for all the High school equivilency folks that IS 3/8 of an inch. It is good enough for me, but that lash lock looks GReat!
Liveoutside
Thanks for input… looks impressive! ($28.xx) 6FT long and … what 10 mm?.. … hold on… …
… yes 3/8 of an inch LOL
http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=602003&Category_Code=cgid
Canoe and a pickup
OK, I’m an ignorant kayaker. But how do you carry a canoe in a pickup?
I’ve seen people just throw their rec kayak in the pickup bed. But a canoe is longer than that. How do you carry a canoe without a rack? Why can’t you do the same with a kayak?
I ask because that would make kayak a fair game if they can take it away like that.
Canoe in a pickup-Easy
My standard bed F-150 pickup truck has a 9 foot platform with the tailgate down. An extended bed pickup truck would give you over 10 feet of platform space with the tailgate down. I have no problem hauling a 17 ft. canoe, a 16 ft. canoe, and 2 rec. kayaks in the bed of my pickup when the whole family goes out. No rack needed for all four boats. Very safe and secure and I never worry like I do when I have a single boat strapped to the top rack of my Subaru. The most important part is just making sure that the boats are secured so that the ties are pulling toward the front of the truck. Then they can’t go anywhere and they are more protected from wind buffeting than on a car rack. It would be easy to haul an even longer sea kayak that way also, it would just extend a little further out back.
Yikes
This whole subject gives me the creeps…as my brand new custom Greenlander is here at the Spa tonight (where I live) on my rack outside with the cable system (with the ball on the end) holding it on my locked Yakima system.
I probably won’t sleep a wink tonight…
Scott
I’ll sleep easy now.
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What make a kayak so hard to secure is exactly what make it quite hard to casually haul on a pickup bed: there's NO place to put any cable or rope to (to prevent it from falling off the back)!
Unlike a canoe, which (usually) has a couple of cross bars to loop a rope over, most kayaks has NOTHING. You can loop a rope over the deck line or the carrying toggle. But both are soft and flexible and the kayak will moves a great deal and bounce around all over the bed . (never mind every pickup I see on the road already got half their bed filled with all sort of crap, which will all be squashed by this 40-50 lb kayak landing on top of!) With another 6-8 ft sticking out the tail gate and nothing to secure it, it won't go too far before it falls right off! Though, if it's your boat, you might not like that outcome any better either. ;o)
That’s why the Lasso lock is good
It was designed specifically with sea kayaks in mind. There are two loops, each of which slides over the bow and stern ends and stops wherever the loop fits snugly. Then the ends of each piece (like long, snaking stems from two lollipop) are locked together AFTER the owner wraps the ends around the crossbars etc. so as to minimize space for cutters to be worked in.
It’s not bulletproof but it does address the problem of how to secure a boat that has no hardware for locking onto.
Said it before already …
Thickest kevlar line you can find / want to pay for … takes forever to cut , even w/ a new, sharp spyderco type knife … like others have aready said, make em’ take a bunch of time and make noise to untie all the ‘superknots’ you have tied into it … but wait … poke some of that nice 1X19 wire through it ( HD kevlar line) with a discus padlock and suprise ! Now they need quality bolt cutters to go through the cable which they did not even know was there 'till they already spent too much time and exposed effort to hack through knotted, twisted kevlar. Double protection since even fresh bolt cutters will not cut heavy kevar line to begin with … so whatsa thief to do ? Move on …
Kayak in a Pickup
I’m amazed that some of you think you can’t haul a kayak in the bed of a pickup truck. Most pickups now come with tie-down cleats or rings in the bottom corners of the bed. My old 1995 F-150 didn’t come that way, so I drilled holes and mounted tie-down rings in the front corners. When I’m taking out my recreational kayaks (without the canoes), I put the kayaks in backwards, and use a heavy duty bungee to secure the rear carrying loop of the kayak to the front corner ring, and a long bungee to attach the front carrying loop to my rear bumper. (The tailgate is in the down position.) Just takes a few seconds the boat is secure. I use only heavy duty bungees, but even if one failed, the other would be pulling the boat into the bed of the truck. On a long trip, I may slip a couple of other bungees over the rim of the cockpit pulling down to the sides of the tailgate just to eliminate any wobble. Granted, my longest rec kayak is just a little over 11 feet long, but the same principle would work for much longer boats. I use somewhat similar principles when hauling my 17 foot and 16 foot canoes.
I guess you never have heard
of Walmart!
Next time I will spell out: WALMART
cheers,
JackL
Very easy to carry boat in pickup
Even a small truck can carry a long boat for short distances. I would think most thieves aren’t going too far with their loot, and I doubt they really care if it bounces around a little.
As said in previous posts, if you can keep the casual punk from taking your stuff, you’ve done all you can. A professional thief will steal whatever they want and there is not much you can do about it.
Might be a good idea to find out what your insurance covers. My homeowners insurance will cover personal property theft ONLY if it is stolen from my property (deductible = ouch). After reading all of this, I’m calling my auto insurer to find out if I’m covered for personal property theft on my truck!!
Kayak Lasso Locks
Retail $49
EBay now has threee for 1/2 off. Search under Kayak Lasso.
These locks are 13 feet long.