boreal paddles hx of breaking?

Has anyone experienced having a Boreal fiberglass paddle breaking???i had heard that of a few of them…and then mine broke last year…the blades were not made correctly…

i like the paddle…and am now being dicked around by them and their rep…

was wondering if anyone else had experience with them like this…

thanks



or anyone want to purchase a broken Boreal paddle???it was nice…

What is the nature of the break and
how did it happen ?



How long did you have the paddle ?



Just wondering.

funny
i had the paddle for about 6 months…used it about 12 times…

was in the middle of a class-i rolled and went to brace and fell back in as there was no blade left…

the blade snapped perpendicular to the shaft about 4 inches INTO the blade…



because i live in a huge area of boat making (all types and materials) i have had a couple of people look at it…

where the break is the material kind of flaked…the guys i have show it to say that the problem was in the making of it…the fiberglass was resin starved so it never became one piece…obviously a manufacturing process defect…





btw: the blades are fiberglass…

Whoa … obviously a manufacturing…
defect ??? I think your local ‘experts’ have a bit more to learn about fiberglass failures before coming to conclusions like that.



A “resin starved” layup will crack / break / appear to fold up first BEFORE letting go. If the paddle was entirely made of mat then it would also appear to “flake” … probably not the case.



The condition you are describing sounds more like the laminate held together as long as it could before stresses demanded of the resin ( not for lack of it) by the glass exceeded the resins ability to hold everything together.



Another cause for the glass to appear to “flake” would be mistiming of the layup between plys … again, modern manufacturing techniques have come to avoid this …



If the paddle were truely defective it would have broken on you long before you missed the roll.

yep…resin starved…
there was no sign at all of ANY resin in the damaged area…the texture of the fibers were completely untouched by anything…think of a pb&j with pb&j just around the edges and none in the middle…

so-wrong choice of word-Flaked=oops…

the paddle DID crack cleanly…and then proceeded to separate the innermost layers as there was nothing there connecting them…



thinking of this i need to get some pix of it…





btw: you want to tell the designers of Legacy Yachts that?as well as people from Hall Spars???have fun with that part…


Sure, it would be fun to tell them
that. Especially If THEY had used the word flaked instead of delaminated or shear fracture. Pictures or information besides a laymans emotional observations would have helped alot.

Big names do not scare me nor gain my respect by blasting anothers product across the internet. Have fun with trying to get them to stand up for you in reality.

my choice of words…sorry…
okay…i was actually just looking for any one else’s experience on boreal paddles…

sorry that i used the wrong word and got you going…



big names…hmm…


listen to Onno paddles …
pat is a paddle maker (boats too) and i doubt you’ll find anyone who knows as much as he does about how to make a paddle and what “unmakes” them.

hall
what people from hall spars exactly?

Boreal is really bad to deal with…
I owned a Boreal “Nanook” for a while, and had a problem with it. I wrote to Boreal, and e-mailed them about my problem. I even took digital pictures, put them on a CD, did a write up on the pictures, and UPS shipped it to them.



They finally told me it was not a problem with their boat, as it was “computer designed”. Hah, what a joke. They then told me to stop bothering them, and quit answering my e-mails.



I would not wish upon my worst enemy to buy a Boreal product. You can read my review here on P-Net, on the Boreal “Nanook”, for “the rest of the story”!

Picture sent…
NOT trying to sound like know it all jerk here but nothing new there. That is what fiberglass looks like when it gets broken … close up picture might help but to be honest there is nothing there that indicates lack of resin … That is simply how glass looks when it lets go. The resin breaks away from the glass and it looks white or ‘dry’.