Doniphan is downstream
You didn’t have a report of a serious accident in the Riverways. Doniphan is not in the Nationl Park area.
Seems like arguing for arguing’s sake
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Plenty of the people here have seen dangerous behavior of jet-boat operators, so I don't see why it's so important to you that they "prove" this with accident statistics. For example, I live on a residential street where the speed limit is 25 mph. For a stretch of about three years there was a teenage boy in the neighborhood who would drive by most evenings in excess of 50 mph, probably closer to 65 mph farther down the block since his speed was steadily increasing as he went by my house. Since no one was ever killed by that driver and he never hit a parked car or anything, does that mean he was doing nothing wrong, or that there was nothing inherently dangerous about driving at that speed on such a road? I see no problem with recognizing dangerous behavior prior to the time when something terrible happens.
What good is plan?
Given the history of nps and current river. will they just pass something and continue to do so little? Nps probably did more enforcement during the shutdown.than they did during the summer.
A request for comments
Jo Schaper of the River Hills Traveler blog “Trav Talk” is soliciting comments from individuals on the draft management plan which she will use in a writeup to be posted on the River Hills Traveler site. This is another way you can make your thoughts known to the NPS.
If you have comments for Jo the email address to send them to is jschaper@rhtrav.com
Hey Terry
Representative Jason Smith claims the following regarding the ONSR draft management plan:
“The outcry I have heard from my constituents is unanimous, they believe the Ozark National Scenic Riverways are already over managed and my constituents do not want the National Park Service to further intrude on their access to public rivers and lands.”
See video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zE-WpKF7xI&feature=youtu.be
Not surprising really
but a little shortsighted. Just a wee bit…
Typical politician
He says “the outcry is unanimous”. There’s no way it can be unanimous, especially nowadays when so many people see the downside of over-use and extreme partying on public lands. Only a lawyer or a politician could show such blatant disregard for actual facts, and unfortunately, those in both fields have absolutely no compunctions about looking like an idiot to those with some background info if it means creating the impression that they choose. In that ultra-conservative region, I can believe that a simple majority are opposed, but “unanimous”? It’s just one more in an endless stream of political lies. Trouble is, both sides act that way.
Representative Smith
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He is a politician.
He is a lawyer.
And he has been, or currently is involved in real estate.
The vast majority of the political contributions he has received came from business; agriculture, real estate, lawyers, builders, contractors, Lucas Oil, Peabody, banks, special interest groups, and lobbyists. Information is readily available on the internet.
Contributions for 2013-2014 cycle:
Large individual contributions $488,200.00
PAC contributions $454,500.00
Small individual contributors $4,020.00
Makes one wonder who Smith's constituents really are, and how he represent them?
BOB
P.S. Maybe Peabody Energy could come down to the ONSR, and get it "squared away"; as they did in Kentucky, and West Virginia.
He Doesn’t Count Me (LOL)!
No, if it were up to him and a few of my local citizens we’d have jet skis, casinos, and massage parlors on the banks of the river. Plus, 365 days a year deer dogging.
Big business running amok
Those are good examples of what can go wrong, but the Ozarks are not unscathed. Let’s not forget that big business already DID run amok in the Ozarks. When the timber industry stripped the forests with no plan or regard for the future, the rivers died, for a pretty long time, at least for practical purposes. Once the forests recovered, so did the rivers, but they weren’t the same, and never will be. Shallow and gravelly is not what the rivers used to be. River beds composed mostly of bedrock was the original situation, and of course the whole river ecosystem was completely different then than it ever can be again. What’s there now is nice, but big business run amok is the reason it’s not the same as it once was.
By the way, Bob already knows this, but many do not, so this post adds to the topic rather than being a reply to Bob.
There’s Some Really Telling Pictures…
…in the mill at Alley (or at least there used to be) that shows bare hills as far as the eye can see. Most people don’t realize that Shannon County was primarily shortleaf pine forests before the timber barons came. And most folks don’t realize the same was true for much of the north woods. It’s hard to imagine a canopy of old growth pine forests with enough room to drive a horse & wagon, but that’s the way it used to be.
http://mdc.mo.gov/conmag/2001/12/pining-dwindling-shortleaf
You got it Bob - remember “Paradise”
“Then the coal company came with the world’s largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man.”
(chorus)
“And daddy won’t you take me back to Muhlenberg County
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay
Well, I’m sorry my son, but you’re too late in asking
Mister Peabody’s coal train has hauled it away”
Paradise by John Prine
If they get their way you can replace Muhlenberg County with Shannon County, and replace Green River with Current River.
Congressman Jason Smith
Congressman Jason Smith has been given the name Walking Eagle by one of the tribes that originally hunted the Current River valley. They named him Walking Eagle.
Walking Eagle is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly. Magnify Pete’s youtube link of Smith’s comments on the floor of Congress large enough and you can see it coming out of his ears.
Telling
how his emphasis shifts from public rivers to “their” rivers. So much for the “national” part of Ozark National Scenic Rivers.
If he heard from 5 constituents, all of whom expressed their outcry, I guess he could say it was unanimous. But far from universal.
These wingers are all on the same page when it comes to doing “the will of the American people.” Like they don’t play a key role in manufacturing that opinion, based on the interests of the monied few.
THAT Is an Appropriate Name…
…for this guy! After several contacts with him, it is easy to figure out why congress is so unproductive.
MO Lt. Governor Peter Kinder
Is the latest to raise his voice in opposition to the NPS draft general management plan for the ONSR in this op-ed piece:
http://www.semissourian.com/story/2037815.html
Lieutenant Governor Kinder goes a bit farther still in stating that:
“It’s time for Missouri to begin efforts to reclaim this resource from the federal government.”
I’m curious as to how Mr. Kinder sees this playing out. Does he plan to petition the federal government to revoke and annul the Act of Congress, passed and signed into law in August of 1964, that created the park?
Would the State of Missouri then buy the lands in the ONSR that were purchased by the NPS with federal tax dollars appropriated by Congress?
If so, how does he propose the State of Missouri would raise that money?
Or does he simply envision forming a local militia to drive those damned federals out?
The Southeast Missourian does require registration to post comments on this piece, but if any feel inclined to leave comments either in support or against Lt. Governor Kinder’s comments it is fairly painless to do so.
I like the comment re
the article being a piece of drivel. Spin to the utmost.
Perspective
Yep, old Pete “Stripper Pole” Kinder still has his eyes on a governor’s mansion. He knows what side his bread’s buttered on.
Cape absolutely fawns over him and the Limbaugh’s.
Hell, let’s give the Grand Canyon to Arizona. They’ve got lots of state parks. I’ll bet they could figure something out.
Pete, thanks
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I read your comments. They were responsibly right on and honest in stark comparison with the ideologically driven lies of the Lt. Gov. Jeez, this dude, rough out of the Limbaugh mold, is an icon of just how screwed up MO's and much of the country's politics have become. At least MO did elect a stand up governor who has helped to stifle some of the extremist nonsense coming from their state legislature.
This should inspire anyone who has not commented on the NPS proposal to do so. See the link in Pete's first post above. Even a few sentences will help to let them know where you stand.