I have a CD Extreme I bought used. It had the standard seat in it which is to tight for me @ 6’ & 220-230 lb. So I ordered their wide base seat which is about 17.5" vs. 15.5" regular wide. I did a seat replacement in my other Extreme. No clue what they used to glue the seat down with but it was black and impossible to separate from seat and hull. I had to cut up the seat to get to adhesive spots. Last boat I was able to pull it out fairly easy and save the seat. I cut the legs off the combing and have to move them out wider and re-glass them under the combing. Stock factory wide base seat combing curves in. I want to move the seat back like I did on my other Extreme for more leg room on exit and entry. The cockpit is 29.50" by 15.50" a bit tight for me getting out my legs. My CD Solstice 2008 has a 31" length cockpit and feel great. So If I can steal and 1" going backward it’s a huge difference in sliding legs in and out at dock or a beach landing. You can see picture at CD web site http://cdkayak.com/Kayaks.aspx?id=32 and mouse over the seat area to magnify. I was wondering if a back band would let me set the seat back farther? Could I make the back band adjust till it just keeps me off the back of the combing? Are back band comfortable? The seats in my other CD boats I keep the seat all the way down at combing height or slightly lower. If I use the seat with regular back like this http://cdkayak.com/Items.aspx?id=19 the seat hits the combing so I can’t move it back that far.
What back bands are good? I see Seal’s and IR bands also could order what ever CD uses? Any thoughts on best one? I see some have the back band bungees that hold band in position better which I guess is an advantage. Edit: I see CD uses IR Reggie back Band. https://cdkayak.com/GreenlandFeatures.aspx
What did they use to glue the seat a black urethane? It is 15 years old and was still super strong and rubbery. I used silicone on my other seat install to dab where seat base hits the hull. I should post pictures here if I get a chance.
Thanks for any help.
seat I have is like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOAkmS_lDi4
here is one with a back band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtXDbBXRI8E&t=47s i think I could move it back more closer to rear combing.
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The backband in the video is an IR Reggie. Go with the IR Loungeband instead. Same price but more coverage.
The adhesive was probably something along the lines of 3M 5200. Heat gun helps in the removal of that stuff but it’s still not easy.
See you on the water,
Marshall
The Connection, Inc.
Hyde Park, NY
Main: www.the-river-connection.com
Store: www.the-river-connection.us
Facebook: fb.me/theriverconnection
yes that was what it was like 5200. I have some in white. If I go with back band can you get one for me Marshall? Need to get combing legs glassed back in which may be a problem due to weather. I need to make room in one of the garages to proceed with heat. So if I plumb down the combing to the back of the seat what is the distance to mount the seat? If you look at the blue kayak video at 48 second of the video you can see the space they have, I would be looking to decrease that distance for more leg room on exit, Is that possible? Thanks.
I have a few of those backbands on hand.
While the seat pan can move back @2" (best guess looking at the video) the front cheek piece of the seat pan will need to be slotted to allow the coaming seat flange to slot through it. That same pillar may need to be trimmed if it impinges on your thigh. A new rivet/bolt hole will need to be drilled through the seat cheek piece and flange so as to have two attachments per side. You may even want to go as far as making a new flange out of ABS to adapt to the new placement of the seat which would allow for the same rivet/bolt holes on the seat pan and new attachments of the adaptor to the existing coaming flange.
I’ll shoot you an email regarding the Backband.
See you on the water,
Marshall
The Connection, Inc.
Hyde Park, NY
Main: www.the-river-connection.com
Store: www.the-river-connection.us
Facebook: fb.me/theriverconnection
I cut the pillar out level with the bottom of the combing. I have to move it out about 3/4 - 1" on each side for the wide base seat. I cut it off the hull at the bottom. When I move it apart I have to shorten the length and then glass it in. If you order wide base seat combing leg or pillar curves outward / wider just under the combing. So when I re-install it I will move it backward. As much as possible. It will look totally stock when done just reward a bit. Did it on my other Extreme & Solstice works great gives me a bit more room to rotate when paddling. Taking pictues as I go and will post when done. Thanks for the help Marshall as usual!
When I went to cut seat out from hull I had some Stainless washers and a bolt under the seat so I had problem trying to saw through the 5200.