You must have a heck of a clientele.
Go look at the Store link. You’ll get an idea of the sort of gear I use and hence carry over >20 years.
Oh, don’t come by after 3pm today. I think I need to try out one of those new paddles!
See you on the water,
Marshall Seddon
The River Connection, Inc.
9 W. Market St.
Hyde Park, NY. 12538
845-229-0595 main
845-242-4731 mobile
Main: [www.the-river-connection.com]
Store: [www.the-river-connection.us]
Email: marshall@the-river-connection.com
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I’m lmpressed that they outsold the Werners, but what makes the more expensive paddle better. Werner sells a $570 Ovation that is about 3 to 4 oz lighter than the Kalliste. However, it comes with a caveat: the weight savings is achieved at the sacrifice of strength.
So now that I know the other paddlevis a number one seller, if price is an inducation of quaity (despite to my shock at hearing that anyone would buy a paddle that is not warranted - warranty is a syateme t if confidence the manufa turer has in the product), what would you cite as the reason to pay more for the other paddle. I need to know what performance edge the more expensive paddles offer. I already know the $570 Ovation is not a better value for my money.
I’m not inclined to pay more for less, or pay more when the maker has no confidence in a replacement guarantee. I know Werner stands behind the product.
There is nothing wrong with Werner. Proven product. It doesn’t make much sense in going into technical depth on Lendal as it doesn’t exist now, hopefully that is not a permanent condition. Comparing the Werner, go read up on the Aquabound technology. They go into depth on their newest innovations. Innovation is also part of the what Werner needs to rediscover. I can write more on SeglaGear as there is a lost in translation factor from Belgium to USA in their product descriptions. Perhaps start a new thread if going into What Makes A Paddle theme.
See you on the water,
Marshall Seddon
The River Connection, Inc.
9 W. Market St.
Hyde Park, NY. 12538
845-229-0595 main
845-242-4731 mobile
Main: [www.the-river-connection.com]
Store: [www.the-river-connection.us]
Email: marshall@the-river-connection.com
Socials: linktr.ee/rivercxn
The Kalliste doesn’t have the flashy colors. My sister has owned a 240cm, and I own a 240cm and a 250cm, and we’ve used them extensively for around 15 years. At $450, I can’t ask for a better paddle (waiting for a 260 cm model). Do you think that Aqua Bound is now priducing a better version of their product when Werner has been selling foam core paddles for a lot longer? Do you believe the new technology is worth the additional $109 expense, or the sale price that’s $126 less.
The specifications don’t show much difference? Why are the Lendal and Aqua Bound better? Are they Gucci paddles?
I have the Werners on the same rack as the new AB. Features add $. All depends on the buyer as to what is valuable to them. If they like the durability of the LamLok edging, grippy shaft, asymetrical (hello Lendal) indexing and the AB flavor of ferrule then $106 it is. Does it obsolesce earlier designs? No.
See you on the water,
Marshall Seddon
The River Connection, Inc.
9 W. Market St.
Hyde Park, NY. 12538
845-229-0595 main
845-242-4731 mobile
Main: [www.the-river-connection.com]
Store: [www.the-river-connection.us]
Email: marshall@the-river-connection.com
Socials: linktr.ee/rivercxn
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Buyer satisfaction is all that matters. Hope they sell off the rack and restock.
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…You must have a heck of a clientele.
I believe the Tetra is listed as a low angle paddle, but the 18 inch long blade would serve as a suitable smaller square inch high angle option.
@Jyak A high angle will be in the pipeline
@mjac I enjoy kayaking with my clientele. Many become good friends.
See you on the water,
Marshall Seddon
The River Connection, Inc.
9 W. Market St.
Hyde Park, NY. 12538
845-229-0595 main
845-242-4731 mobile
Main: [www.the-river-connection.com]
Store: [www.the-river-connection.us]
Email: marshall@the-river-connection.com
Socials: linktr.ee/rivercxn
Good to hear.
I’ve never regretted buying high end / top quality gear.
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$600?
I started paddling with a multi purpose instrument that could also be used as a shovel and an ax. It lasted one trip.
The two I have now were expensive but have done a great job for years and will probably outlve me.
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I have no problem buying high quality equipment. I own three Kalliste paddles in 240, 250 and 260 cm lengths. I also bought two for other people to use. The price in the mid 2000s was $450, while the two most recent cost $470 with the last benefitting from a $75 discount. The current online sale price for a Kalliste is as I posted, $423.
Whether anyone agrees that the Kalliste is a quality product, or suitable for their paddling technique, kayaking style, or worth the investment, is worthy of debate. Each person can only try it and decide.
My question to anyone who owns or has used a Lendal or Celtic, or to anyone who markets those paddles, is simply what do the specific paddles offer for $100 to $150 extra retail value that the Kalliste lacks.
I’ll repeat what I said earlier. Werner has been offering the premium features for at least the past 15 years in both the top of their line low angle and high angle paddles.
While some posts dismissed the Kalliste (20.5" x 6.3" blade with 99.7 sq in area @ 23 oz) as being less than favorable, I’m curious why the long awaited Aqua Bound Tetra (18 x 6.6" blade with 98 sq in area @ 21.25 oz) is going to prove superior to the Kalliste, especially if the blade is the length of a high angle paddle, slighly wider by .3 inches than a Kalliste, and 1.7 sq inches less blade area.
Aside from the hyperbole about being the first excited kid on the block to own one, can anyone explain what makes it worth the extra retail price that isn’t already a feature of the Kalliste???!!! Please don’t suggest that the higher price and lighter weight makes it stronger or perform better. I pointed out that the Werner Ovation is about 18.5 oz for the same price of a Tetra, but Warner “warns” that the lighter weight reduces the strength. Not sure if that means anything. I recognize that some paddlers might want to tale advantage of the advertised reinforced edge of the paddle to pry theor kayak off of rock strewn ledges (I frankly don’t do that and would never do that, but appreciate that it might be an advantage.
The one feature that the Aquabound paddle has that Wener does not is the reinforced edge. Whether this feature is worth the extra cost is up for debate and how you us or abuse your paddles.
Do you think the edging is legit?
I’m sure the Aqua Bound edge is reinforced. So the real question should be which edge is stronger and whether the Tetra is worth the extra money. Know thy paddles.
It is not up to me to determine if the edging is “legit” .I’m not in the market for a paddle at this time. It is up to the buyer to determine if it is legit or worth it to themselves after doing their research. I just answered as to why a higher price point.
My mistake, I thought you owned one and might have an opinion on it after you did your research and had experience with it.