Hey all you canoe manufacturers

How about drilling two quarter inch holes in your tractor style seats, so the water can drain out, and I won’t have to drill them myself.

One in the depression where each “Cheek” goes would be just fine.



And how about
bringing all your ultra-light canoes down to central Florida so I can decide which one I want?

Actually, we do that!
Pb has always drilled drains in all three of its molded pedestal seats, and has also a;ways vented it end decks.

Our '73 Moore had nice molded holes
in the tractor seats. Can’t think why that isn’t done routinely.

are you sure?
Do you really want two little “nipples” on your cheeks where you sat?

Don’t worry
I won’t show you mine!

Our seats…
We still use traditional cane seats in our canoes and pack canoe (plenty of drainage) and our decks are vented. We hope to have a molded bucket seat next year for Tupper and future pack canoe designs and they’ll have drain holes.

Hey Sissy103, we’ll be touring Florida in early October with our canoes. Where are you?


Orlando area
Do you have your itinerary yet?

Which canoe manufacturer are you?

drain holes…
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I generally go look for a rest room rather than depend on seat drains…


Vermont Canoe
I don’t have the exact itinerary yet. It will be between 10/1-10/5. I will be stopping by a shop in Apopka which I believe is in your area.

Do you have any recommendations on nice places to paddle while in that area? My goal is to go for a paddle each of the days we’re down there. Send me an email with suggestions.


Depends work well, too.
Then you don’t have to stop.

Sent you an email
and here is your website for others who are interested:


The Tupper looks interesting, although a little heavier than I would like. Will you be bringing some with you?

Things will be getting lighter, as we will be infusing our hulls by the new year and currently we’re adding an aluminium gunwale option. New weight specs will be available by the time we head south.


Aluminum gunwales, sweet.
Wood trim can be pretty, but I prefer the durability and low maintenance of aluminum trim.

I just hope that metal scavengers don’t start destroying nice composite canoes to get a pound or so of aluminum trim off of them.

Yeah, but
Depends can get pretty heavy if you have to swim…

“Two little nipples” is a lot better
than my entire butt being shrivled amnd wrinkled from sitting in a puddle for five hours



durability of aluminum?
Kink it and its as good as broken… Those UL rails are worth nothing for structure. Not speaking of the rails found on ww canoes, often vinyl clad.

I am done trusting thin aluminum rails in the bush.

I realize most canoes are not built for expedition tripping where accidents are a fact of life.

And aluminum thwarts are a laugh…I can take one out with my leg and not break my leg nor even bruise it…

OK end of Wenonah rant!

Maybe it’s not
cost effective for the manufacturer to do that. Drill them yourself and stop whining, please.

I’ll take aluminum or vinyl any day.
Makes for nice easy loading on the roof racks and requires no maintenance

Wood is too much maintenance.



It has nothing to do with whining

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It is a common sense thing, and if your read the replies, you'll note that some manufacturers do it.
If paddlers would pass along ideas and suggestions to the manufacturers of kayaks and canoes that made sense, I'll bet you would see them added to their boats.

My wife bugged QCC for a year and a half to make a smaller QCC for the smaller paddlers. One day she got a call from the now deceased Phil and said they were going to do it, and would like her input into the design of it. She was back and forth on the phone for over six months with him, and the boat was built with her getting the first one.
It is kind of neat getting just about a custom built boat, made to your specifications because of the fact that you asked for it.
There have been many sold since then.

You might want to rethink your defination of "whining" !