Kayak Length vs Maximum Speed vs "Typical Touring Speed"

Gelcoat on CD hulls is thin to keep the weight down. Certain angles you see a little print of fabric.

He won’t sell it fast at that price .

What was his reaction? It’s a 24 year old item. It was probably 3 grand new. Pedals suck and seating conditions are?

Scratches could probably be wet sanded out.

Average selling price for a Nomad GTS seems to be around $1,500 (three examples around the US) and around $1,200 for an Extreme (five examples). I saw you comment on the Nomad GTS that sold in Maine in the Kayak Repair FB Group - he paid $1,200 for a much newer boat with a compass installed in hardly used condition (excepting the hole in the Gelcoat (he broke the coaming himself)).

Everything is stock on this boat. How would I repair these scratches? They have gone through the blue gelcoat. They make it hard to be proud of new-to-me boat…

Standard gelcoat repair is the only way to repair the scratches. After surface preparation applying the gelcoat by spraygun would work best given that there are multiple scratches. Exact color matching is an art and it wouldn’t make sense to recoat the whole deck.

The scratches are merely cosmetic and you will eventually get more of them. It’s a boat, not a fine piece of furniture.

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Buff most of those out or wet sand them. I shocked myself 4 times at least. Place on Long Island will match your gelcoat but you’ll be holding a gallon you just purchased. $$$

Current Designs has no record of colors since they moved to the USA in previous sale. Looks like Caribbean blue on my 08 Solstice GT.

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He accepted it! :slight_smile:

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Cool what did it go for?

Dump the Yakima sliding pedals!

Kevlar is stiffer which is nice. You can feel the difference by pushing on the deck.

Wow! This topic seems to have taken on a mind of its own. :slight_smile:

I was thinking about boat length again and it sort of reminds me of the recreational sailing world. Longer sailboats, are by most accounts, faster, can haul more and have the potential for more comfort. At least that’s the theory.

In order to achieve the greater speed potential they need adequate sail area, ie horsepower. And the ability to handle large sails can quickly get out of hand for many, even most, sailors. so larger boats often don’t carry enough sail to realize their speed potential except in very specific, and often, rare wind conditions. In reality they often become motorboats with sails.

All too often sailors regret moving up into a larger boat. They, and I’m including myself in this, miss the ease of use of smaller crafts. I think that is why I was trying to get a feel for how important a variable length was for kayaks. I knew, from past experience, that too much boat was often worse than too little.

I’m still a long way from knowing how well I did choosing my first boat. But I’m sure loving how light it is (42 lbs) and how easy it is to load onto my car.

Hopefully you can take it for a spin before you end you’re season.

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Did the trip to Long Island - it is a very nice boat and is safely in New Hampshire. :slight_smile:

Thank you for your help in deciding!

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I’m not a sailor but just wanted to mention that the sweet spot for Lake Michigan sailors seems to be somewhere around the 26-32 foot range. I’ve seen folks single hand these boats and head out in winds that keep all powerboats off the water.

A couple of days ago I ran into another interesting (to me) example of speed versus waterline length. A waterline length of only 2 feet implies a theoretical speed of under 2 knots but this swan was doing around 3 knots…just blasting through the theoretical limit and throwing quite a bow wake just like my short canoes.

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:rofl: And they don’t seem too impressed with our long kayaks and lame paddling skills.

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Another one for sale asking 650 says must go.

Maybe I need a red one now :peanuts:’s

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I saw that! It is the way of things to find one cheaper a few weeks after you buy one. Ironically, we stayed in Riverhead while on island.

My loss is your gain. He says it was only used once!

They are always used once. Such BS 20 years old used once 99.99% lie.

Definitely shows use in the seat and abuse just about everywhere else.

20+ year old kayaks are not new. New seat is 100 bucks. Guy never responds anyway.

I would have paid him 500.

Well, I designed and built this 14’ SOF kayak and it is as fast as a 17’ commercial fiberglass kayak, has very low drag, excellent tracking without zig-zags and is very stable in the worst wind and wave conditions. I think a well-designed hull is the key.

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