Looking for tips to paddle faster

You said your shoulders are shot and you can’t do high angle. So I’ll guess no you won’t be faster paddling high angle.

From the video he’s not leaning forward and planting the paddle by his toes.

Inconsistent cadence is not caused by high angle strokes.

You remembered!? I would recommend against leaning and reaching and recommend a more natural, repeatable, consistent cadence. Im still curious if there is a way to flatten my spike. Can you tell which sections were into the wind tide, current and waves?

Whats the cruising speed, now that I matched the speed I could achieve 15 years ago before my injury., but don’t listen to my suggestion about low angle paddling. It yaws to much and slows the speed.


This was . . . Spurious:





Can you show me the yawing. It hasn’t slowed me. You just denied saying the GPS is inaccurate.

Post / quote where I said GPS is inaccurate.

Not necessary.

I’d rather assume I misquoted you than believe you actually said it.

You seem to be clipping along! This weekend we paddled about three hours and I noticed using the whole body gets me the most effortless speed.
I commend you for getting out there and for getting your kid on the rowing team.

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I think the focus should be your butt and thighs and about leverage but I am not formally trained :wink:

Well you keep making the claim so show me but I’m not from Missouri. :laughing:

Using proper rotation can greatly extend you range without even a “pause” to quote someone else :joy: Anyway :roll_eyes:

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It’s public record. I dont need to prive it. When someone suggests that I said something, I feel it’s my responsibility to see whether I misspoke. You apparently feel you’re right and everyone else is wrong. I stopped requoting and justifying my position when it became clear to me thst you asked questions about things that I had covered in exhausting detail. On one thread, I gave not only GPS charts, speed graphs and tracks. I calculated time lines based on measured distances taken from 7.5 min topo maps and compared to nautical charts. Then calculated based on any inaccuracy due to error in calculating the actual distance, both below and above, to show the marginal way it influenced actual GPS calculations. The I asked you to tell me what you thought my average should be. Still waiting. You challenge my integrity then drop off the conversation.

I asked your opinion to assess my graphs. You willingly offer advice to other, them challenge me when I offer suggestions. I post actual charts to give any doubter the opportunity to pull it apart. Use a chart to pace off the track to discredit the accuracy of my reported distance. Nothing from you. Still waiting for you to point out yawing in my track and how you feel it has affected my average speed.

You claim you hit 13 mph in current. Frankly, I don’t believe that. I don’t challenge your experience or skill, but note that you rarely (I believe once) post actual digital validation. You challenged @Craig_S, until he suggested you paddle together. I have paddled with him and will happily offer my impression.

Your focus on integrity detracts from Craig’s an my ability to offer recommendations. However, that doesn’t bother me. I’m approaching 73 yrs old in two months, I have a busted left shoulder, yet I have adapted to match the peak average speed over the same course that I managed to achieve when I was still in my late 50s. The digital evidence is public record. I don’t actually consider that fast. I consider Craig and Steve to be faster, but I have figured out how to increase efficiency. Much of my progress comes from interaction with two members of the forum - Craig and Steve. Another forum member is currently testing my suggestions and independently commenting on what works or doesn’t work.

I’m looking forward to his input because he has greater potential than me, considering that he’s younger and more fit. When a forum member ignores my recommendations, it shows they have no confidence in my suggestions. That doesn’t hurt my feelings, because what someone else does has no impact on my performance. I’m personally extatic because I figured out how to turn back time. On the other hand, I found that by sharing ideas with Craig and Steve, they offer valuable alternatives, never criticism.

Have you figured out by looking at my chart:

  • what’s the cruising speed?
  • what is the wind direction and velocity.
  • what is the tidal state.
  • how strong is the current (the left channel is a dead end, but the Hammerman side has a standing outflow in the Gunpowder River channel.

Again we agree. Isn’t this great.

No you’re wrong you can’t quote it. It’s your false interpretation.

Then I’ll acknowledge inaccurate interpretation and am pleased to hear that we both agree that the GPS is at least relatively accurate if you know how to interpret the readout. That three tomes we agree in a row. I like that.

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This discussion is in danger of becoming a tome.

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Isn’t the art of paddling what the forum is about?

Who told you that? :grinning:

My mistake

Wait, this is Paddling.com, isn’t it? My mistake.

So after watching my own videos and getting various inputs, what I realize is my head is turning ahead of my body rotation. I seemed to have trained myself to look at the paddle planting into the water. I was doing this early on looking to get a feel of ideal paddle placement. So today, I worked hard to break this habit of looking first. In the videos above, I’m turning my head as I am planting my paddle. So turning my head early, its rotating slightly already and then I’m already in that direction looking so my mind thinks I’m rotated.

This morning I adjusted my strokes. I am lifting and putting the paddle in the forward position without looking and then doing my full rotation to push the water. It felt like I was going faster with a full rotation but it was a little dizzying because I was not used to planting the paddle and then rotating. I have not watched the video of this morning but I think that’s how you’re supposed to do it? :slight_smile: