Lost Kayakers

I’m certain …

– Last Updated: Mar-02-05 5:22 PM EST –

Holmes:
I'm certain you probably did assist some scouts & a scoutmaster to safety.
Based on what I've seen in the past; many scout/church/school groups are a disaster waiting to happen, on any body of water, or in any wildernes area. Too often there is a lack of training, a lack of discipline, poor awareness of natural consequences, unskilled/untrained participants and leaders, and leaders who do not understand the concepts of responsibility, span of control & delegation of authority.
I worked with the Boy Scouts for 3 years as a volunteer instructor. I led them on multiple canoeing, backpacking, caving, rockclimbing, rappeling, and orienteering outings. "Before" they ever departed for any outing they received classroom, and "hands on" workshops. As an example; no scout or scout leader was allowed on a canoeing outing if they had not successfully completed classes in Introduction to Canoeing, Basic Water Safety, and First Aid. No pass; no go! No matter how many scouts were on the outing (12 maximum); 3 adults besides myself had to be on every outing. Going on an outing was an earned priviledge; not a right. They ate & camped in foodgroups; one adult was always with each foodgroup. On the river one adult led, one pulled drag, and 2 were in the middle canoe/canoes. Similiar rules applied for other outings. There were natural consequences for unruly, unsafe, unacceptable behavior.

Seem like overkill? Guess what? Nobody was ever killed, evacuated from an outing, hospitalized, or had "any" injury that required anything not available in first aid kits.
Finished up with a hundred mile backpacking outing at Philmont. Again, no injury whatsoever.
Parents were lining up to get their kids in the troop. No doubt in my mind why either.
That said, I have empathy for the kids lost, for the parents of the kids, and for the adults in charge of the outing. I would not want to be in the shoes of the latter; sounds like a possible "field day" for the lawyers to me.

BOB

I went to a great high school

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which had a fantastic outdoors program. Rock climbbing 5.10s twenty minutes from schools, regular trips to class two plus whitewater about 1 hour away, 1/4 acre outdoor pool (artificial lake with concrete around the edges and big stones wher it's deep. etc etc. Too much liability for these days.

Have not been able to find a link
to a story I heard twice on the radio news in the Tampa area on Tuesday that the C.G. had recovered the body of a commerical fisherman who’s boat had called in a distress call over the weekend. Was found about 30 miles west of Tampa Bay. The vessel and maybe 1 or 2 others had not been located. Reported 5-8 seas, winds to 45mph. Was not a good weekend on the West coast of FLA. My prayers to the families.

Survivor Recap
Story from girl survivor, there will be a lot of questioning of the actions taken AND not taken as the situation GRADUALLY degraded.



http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/0305/03survivor.html

Kayak Fatality
I posted this on another site.



I’ve read fellow paddler’s comments here and other boards and the Monday morning quarterbacks with the ‘should’ve, could’ve’ comments. Apparently they didn’t have a VHF radio. I really don’t know though. Did they have one, did it fall overboard, malfunction, have dead batteries (if so, why didn’t they have fully charged spares), etc. etc. etc.? Unless you were there and know the facts, don’t speculate. Here is what one 17 year old said about the incident in the Atlanta Journal Constitution.



http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/0305/03survivor.html

Copy And Paste
you and the previous poster are giving links to a site in which you have to have a subscription to access the article.



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‘Eventually their light disappeared’

– Last Updated: Mar-03-05 9:25 AM EST –

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
By NORMAN AREY
Published on: 03/03/05

'Eventually their light disappeared'
Teens' canoe slipped away into darkness, survivor of trip says

ROME — Leslie Beninato watched the canoe carrying Sean Wilkinson and Clay McKemie drift away as night fell on the Gulf of Mexico.

Floating with the small cluster of boats in her lost party, the 17-year-old kept her eye on a flashlight beam coming from the 14-year-old boys' canoe until it faded in the darkness about 8:30 Saturday night.

The water was getting choppy, and the wind was picking up. "For a while, it looked like they were getting closer," she said. "But eventually their light disappeared."

The bodies of the two boys were found floating Monday morning miles from where Leslie remembers seeing them off the Florida coast Saturday night. Sean and Clay died from a combination of hypothermia and inhaling seawater, authorities said Wednesday.

Leslie was one of eight Darlington School students on the trip, which was led by two faculty members from the private school in Rome. She recounted her experience Wednesday during an interview with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution at a Rome restaurant.

The sun was out, and there was a little breeze Saturday afternoon when the group embarked on a weeklong paddling and camping expedition.

Leslie, who took her own kayak on the trip, said the group set out on calm waters for the 4 1/2-mile journey from Suwannee to Coon Island.

"But the wind picked up some when we got away from the marshes," she recalled Wednesday. "It was fairly warm, not 80 but in the 60s or maybe a little more. Everybody had on shorts and T-shirts. We had our life vests on over the T-shirts, and everybody had a rain jacket."

Despite early accounts that suggested the seven boats — three kayaks, three canoes and a motorized catamaran — became separated, Leslie said they stayed close together. "We spread out a little, but we were all within a few yards of each other. We knew where everybody was. And we could easily see the shore."

As the breeze picked up, the group became a little more spread out, she said. She pulled up to the escort boat to check in. Steve Hall, the teacher leading the group, told her the motor on the catamaran — two pontoons spanned by a platform called a "cataraft" — was acting up.

"I asked could I help, and he said, 'No, I'll get it.' "

She told him she was going to go ahead on to Coon Island, which was just over a mile away. She reached the island in about a half-hour. She stayed there for just a few minutes before she saw the lantern come on at the cataraft.

"Everybody knew that was the signal to come to the boat, so I put back in off the island and reached the cataraft in about 30 minutes."

The canoe bearing the two boys had drifted but was still in sight, she said. "It was before 7 o'clock, and I could still see Clay and Sean. Since the lantern was on, they knew to come to us." The boys seemed to be coming toward the light.

"Everyone there tied up to the cataraft and we all started to paddle toward the island because the motor on the boat still wouldn't work," she said. "We were pulling a kayak behind the boat and the rope had gotten tangled in the props and had stripped the gears."

As night fell and the water became more choppy, she said, they could still catch glimpses of light on the shore. And they could still see Clay and Sean.

But then the boys' light disappeared.

'OK, we'll be fine'

Hall took Leslie's kayak and paddled toward shore to see if he could pick up a cellphone signal. He returned, saying he couldn't make it, and took off in a canoe with Darlington senior Adam Moody.

Leslie said she was not yet scared. She cracked some jokes to break the tension. "I had two good friends who were worried," she said. "When [Hall] left to get a cell signal, I told them 'OK, we'll be fine.'

It also was comforting that Bryan Evans, a soccer coach at the school, was still onboard the cataraft.

However, the group became disoriented as time wore on in the dark.

"I think it was sleep deprivation," she said. "Some of us thought we saw the shore and palm trees. Another one thought she saw a dock and almost walked off into the water."

She began to see things herself. "I thought I saw Jerry Garcia. I'm a big fan of the Grateful Dead. I thought I saw dancing bears. Then I said, 'Hey, Jerry's not here. What's happening with this?' "

Waves had risen to perhaps 4 feet. "But it's hard to tell how high they are if you're on the ocean," she said.

After Hall and Moody failed to return, the party grew more anxious. She and Evans tried to remain calm, Leslie said. "He'd whisper to me, 'Hey, I think I see a light out there, I think I see the shore lights,' but he didn't want to say it out loud and get the group's hopes up."

About 1 a.m. Sunday, a distant light appeared in the sky. Over the next two hours, a search helicopter came closer. It found the group about 3 a.m. and circled until a Coast Guard boat arrived.

"They came up and said, 'Hey, y'all need any help?' and we were laughing and said, 'No, we're fine.' "

On the way to shore, Leslie said, she heard on the radio that the Coast Guard had picked up an older man and a student. "We knew that was [Hall] and Adam," she said. "We asked them if they had found two younger guys, but they said no."

Help from strangers

As the Darlington party waited ashore for news of their missing classmates, they were taken in by the people of the town of Suwannee. "Everybody was bringing us food and clothes. I've still got a jacket that I'll keep forever."

Monday morning the Coast Guard brought in their boats. About 10:30 a.m. the word came that the boys had been found dead, floating miles out in the Gulf.

"Everyone was very emotional, but you know, I don't think the shock has hit me yet," Leslie said.

On Wednesday, she wanted to talk about whether her teacher had done everything he could. Florida officials have questioned whether the party had taken the proper precautions given the prospect of rough weather.

"People say 'Well, he left you all.' But if he hadn't, we'd still be drifting. He made a decision, and it was the correct one," she said.

Hall had reached his wife in Rome by cellphone at about midnight Saturday. She was eventually able to contact the Coast Guard.

Hall has not yet commented publicly about the incident, which Florida authorities have ruled an accident.

"Who's to blame?" Leslie said. "Everybody wants to blame somebody.

"It's like that gossip game in elementary school where one person tells another something, and it goes around and you see how easily things can get twisted up."

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Saftey

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Sounds like a lot of things went wrong as well as the group not being as careful as they should have been. I think the guide got too comfortable with the trip. (I know I am second guessing and I hope he can survive what he is going through now)

I used to lead trips for Friends of the Chicago River and act as a volunteer guide for a company called Northwest Passage. NWP runs climbing trips up Everest and got into “urban adventuring” a few years ago. When I worked with them (volunteer river historian and nature interpreter) they used to give me a hard time for brining a throw rope, first aid kit and some basic rescue gear on a “simple” 18 mile trip through the forest preserve and city. They have been up Everest so they knew what danger was…….. well two days after a heavy rain the North Branch of the Chicago river was blasting up and over it’s little banks and flowing along quite nicely. (I canceled a trip I was to lead the day before for a bunch of teenagers for Friends of the Chicago River) In the first four miles I had used ALL of my safety gear. In the most serous incident my partner and I rescued a woman pinned between her canoe and a downed tree. She had a few minor injuries and was released from the hospital that day. Two canoes with their occupants went over a dam further down the river while we were performing the rescue (the paid guides from NWP had flipped and where dragging and dumping their boats out while the people they where “guiding” went on ahead). All boats where trashed but every one was lucky enough to swim to safety. (Even after all of this NWP refused to call the rest of the trip off, they did cancel the rest of the trips scheduled for that year)

Northwest Passage was shocked that their little trip had turned to disaster. They could not believe that a day paddle could go so poorly. Why? Because they had concord much larger challenges and faced more challenging situations, they underestimated the river and took safety for granted. To some extent from time to time I have been guilty of the same thing. After reading the accounts of a "simple" overnight paddle I am reminded not to take safety for granted, too bad there was such a tragic loss of life to remind me

EPIRB
Last year we spent a week in the Gulf and rented an EPIRB for $50.00 a week.



With all the money folks spend on gear and travel expenses, an EPIRB is a small percentage of the cost of a trip. If you buy one it lasts for many years. Sure, it might just sit there, and it might not bring any immediate fun, but rescue is swift and certain in this part of the world.



Let’s not hear any complaints about cost. The group members could have been charged an extra $5.00 for the EPIRB rental. I don’t think their parents would have complained.



The newest EPIRBS are quite small and cost about $700.00. Sure, that’s a lot, and the layperson might not be expected to have one. But I think a paid professional with his own business would, especially on a coastal trip during that time of year.



We also had a submersible VHF on our Gulf trip. I think I got it on sale for $110.00. However, the range is limited and unless I know I can reach someone, the EPIRB is needed.



Now, with this incident, considering the long “time at risk” that an outdoor professional has, I am completely baffled about why this trip had no EPIRB or VHF.



In my opinion, it was the lack of these essential items of affordable safety equipment for coastal paddlling, not the weather, that best explains this event.

All the equipment in the world is not
a substitute for good judgement.



Since there were posted small craft warnings, why did they even go out?



Why were some in canoes on a body of water known to get rough and windy? That’s not beginner conditions for anybody, canoe or kayak.



Why were beginners paddling at night in conditions like these?



We can attribute all sorts of things to the guides (only one was a “guide”, the other was just another teacher).



An EPIRB on the cataraft would not have saved the two students. Some one on the raft would have had to turn it on prior to losing them.

Difficulties of Leadership
I have read all of the above posts and one thing came to mind. As a 25 year incident commander in the field of public safety I have learned that one of the most difficult decisions to make is the decision to “not go”. When you have a group of people that are excited about something and are ready to go to work, or play, it can be a very unpopular decision to call it all off. All the facts may say don’t go but the energy of the group can sometimes push you in a direction that you know is wrong. It takes a lot of strength as a leader to draw the line and ruin everybodies fun but sometimes it must be done.



I am not saying that this is what happened but it may help to explain why an experienced guide would get himself in such a mess. Sometimes you just have to say “no”. What makes this decision tough is that the inexperienced will never understand why you ruined the fun. It is easy to roll the dice for the fun of the group but the outcome may not be as easy to deal with.



Leadership skills are tough but critical if you are going to be in a leadershop position. This may not have contributed to this incident but it is a dynamic we can all be aware of when we are put in leadership rolls in our families or groups.

EPIRB’s Etc.
Re EPIRB’s - the authorities will usually let the satellites pass over it twice before they respond. I heard this from a friend’s daughter who is an honors student in the Maritime Academy in Massachusetts, a person who had also spent her high school years volunteering with the local firefighters. Not a lightweight. While I think EPIRB’s have a place, I’ve heard some extremely unflattering names for these things from people who spend most of their time kayaking in colder water where that time could be critical.



Re this thread, there is no indication that the group set off after dark - just that it was dark by the time events had gone greatly afoul. Maybe in the afternoon.



These things get messy in the details - the lawyers will be at this a long time.

What wisdom!
“In my opinion, it was the lack of these essential items of affordable safety equipment for coastal paddlling, not the weather, that best explains this event.”



Great!



Get yourself the latest and greatest “safety equipment”. Now, you can ignore small craft advisory, or maybe even storm warnings. Just turn on the EPIRPS when things gets too rough to handle. someone will put their life on the line to come rescue you!



Who needs common sense in paddling when one can get this kind of wisdom on the net!

Thoughts on survivor’s account
With all of the talk about VHF and EPIRBs, etc. there’s another missing link…note that in the AJC article the survivor says that once they saw the Coast Guard search helo, it was another two hours before the helo found them on the water. Evidently, among the things not at hand were night signaling devices.



USCG rules state that you should have approved night signaling devices if you are operating at night and offshore you need both day and night devices.



While there is a lot of debate over the relative effectiveness of flares and such, and I really don’t want to start that debate again, having them is a lot better than not having anything.



I’m willing to bet that the thought was; we won’t be paddling at night so we don’t need anything like that. Well, they found themselves in trouble, at night, offshore and waiting two hours for that SAR helo to find them. Something more than a flashlight was needed to alert the helo to their position.



Phil

USCG Reserve

1986-2001

Redundancy is good
By all means we should use good judgment in our paddling. But it’s still useful to have an alternative to “float here until I die” when things go completely to hell on the water, whether or not we should have been there in first place. If someone is missing, there will be a search, and there’s a lot better chance of finding the victim quickly–and thus minimizing the risk to rescuers–if they know where to look.

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"When you have a group of people that are excited about something and are ready to go to work, or play, it can be a very unpopular decision to call it all off. "



“What makes this decision tough is that the inexperienced will never understand why you ruined the fun.”



For a commercial guide, the “inexperienced” client may not come back to give you any more future business. When one’s livelihood is dependent upon it, the decision is that much harder.



The other side of the coin is, he’s not going to have much of a outfitting business left when the lawyers got done with him. Talk about making the “right” decisions.

Relying on technology
Sure - an EPIRB can be a great thing - but it should also be a last resort thing - with safety built upon multiple lines of defense to use first (mostly as prevention).



In this case - I seriously doubt it would have mattered. An EPIRB would almost certainly have been on the escort boat, not the wayward canoe, and would not have been activated until well after dark. It might have gotten the helo to the support boat quicker - but the odds of then finding the boys and the canoe in many square miles of dark choppy water from there would not have been any better.



High tech gear is no substitute for preparation, skill, and self-reliance as the basis for your choices.



I’m certainly not against electronics - I just doubt they will bring help in a timely enough manner (as others have noted) to deal with most serious paddling mishaps where the big risk is hypothermia/drowning. The exception is VHF - IF other boaters are in range (and can spot you once alerted). EPIRB is a nice backup - but seems more suited to disabled motor vessels/lifeboats and people in remote areas (on land) - where there is more time to effect a rescue.

Distrubing
I find the following information most disturbing. That the group watched for an extended period of time while the canoe drifted further away.

From the AJC article:



“The canoe bearing the two boys had drifted but was still in sight, she said. “It was before 7 o’clock, and I could still see Clay and Sean. Since the lantern was on, they knew to come to us.” The boys seemed to be coming toward the light.



“Everyone there tied up to the cataraft and we all started to paddle toward the island because the motor on the boat still wouldn’t work,” she said. “We were pulling a kayak behind the boat and the rope had gotten tangled in the props and had stripped the gears.”



As night fell and the water became more choppy, she said, they could still catch glimpses of light on the shore. And they could still see Clay and Sean.



But then the boys’ light disappeared.”

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Why didn’t the guide get in a canoe or kayak and paddle like hell to the drifting canoe while it was still light out?

Distrubing
What I find most disturbing is that the guide and the group watched for an extended period as the canoe slowly drifted further away from daylight into dark. Why didn’t the guide get in a kayak and paddle like hell out to them while the rest of the group remained tied together?

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From the AJC article:

The canoe bearing the two boys had drifted but was still in sight, she said. “It was before 7 o’clock, and I could still see Clay and Sean. Since the lantern was on, they knew to come to us.” The boys seemed to be coming toward the light.



“Everyone there tied up to the cataraft and we all started to paddle toward the island because the motor on the boat still wouldn’t work,” she said. “We were pulling a kayak behind the boat and the rope had gotten tangled in the props and had stripped the gears.”



As night fell and the water became more choppy, she said, they could still catch glimpses of light on the shore. And they could still see Clay and Sean.



But then the boys’ light disappeared.

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Very sad.