Lyme disease cure?

Thanks for sharing, interesting and will be interesting to see if this leads to new treatments or prevention.

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Yes, thanks to paddledogs52. I rabbit holed the subject and came up with a couple of good documentaries, ‘The Quiet Epidemic’ (2022) and ‘Under Our Skin’ (2008 and 2014). Also check out the below link for info on the book ‘Bitten: The Secret History of Lyme Disease and Biological Weapons’. The amazon page for that book has two “top reviews” that are pretty incredible.

Oh great, just what we need, a conspiracy theory about Lyme disease. Is there no intelligent life left in this country?

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In the social media world, bad things don’t happen by chance and scientific explanations aren’t acceptable. Instead, it must be somebody’s fault when bad stuff happens. Dontcha know that evil-doers lurk in every shadow and Armageddon is just around the corner?
The more outrageous, the better, because it’s about clicks, not facts. We should have seen this coming when we started handing out certificates of participation and stopped insisting that kids actually learn grade-level science and math and reading in order to pass. But we didn’t, and now we’re reaping the rewards of lousy primary and secondary education - - - thousands of social media influencers with little actual experience and even less common sense.

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I do understand bnystrom, but when the discoverer of the bacteria (Willy Burgdorfer) causing Lyme admits to engineering the ticks and implies to the outcome (esp severe cases where multiple organisms are involved, like Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella), it seems a different issue.

Also, look at the big picture surrounding Lyme and Covid and how it was handled. A local physician was put out of work in his mid 50’s due to a multiple infection case.

Uh, no.

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Yes, that article is evidence against the conspiracies. Just found it myself. Thanks for posting.

I try to keep an open mind but, I kept envisioning a plane flying over enemy territory dropping ticks from the bomb bay. Meanwhile in the war room, a general is wringing his hands in that fiendish manner. “Now all we have to do is wait- maybe months, maybe years- for the Lyme to work its magic. Then we will be victorious.”

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It’s incredibly obvious, isn’t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly, without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works.”

  • General Jack D. Ripper (Dr. Strangelove, 1964)
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One wonders how pandemics happened at all in the days before social media…. :joy:

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Here is a link to the original paper by Burgdorfer.

Here is a link about more history of the discovery from two remaining authors of original paper.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6751065/

Even if it does work out and provides protection from Lyme, there are still a lot of other reasons to avoid Ticks. 3 Years ago, I had a tick on my back, and contracted Tick borne relapsing fever, a distant cousin to Lyme that is becoming increasingly common in the northeast. Similar symptoms to Lyme, and same treatment. And there are a lot of other nasties that Ticks carry.

Don’t get me wrong - I’d love to see a preventative treatment for Lyme, but I’ll still pretty much bathe in citrus based repellent even to mow the lawn (Which is likely where I’ve gotten bit a few times), and to paddle or bike.

There is a tick disease that our Forestry employed member of the canoe club got that leaves the patient allergic to red meat. Stomach problems, throat problems, etc. He can still eat things with feathers or fins, but no more beef, bison, rabbit, etc.

Alpha-gal syndrome (AGS) is a serious, potentially life-threatening allergic condition. AGS is also called alpha-gal allergy, red meat allergy, or tick bite meat allergy. AGS is not caused by an infection. AGS symptoms occur after people eat red meat or are exposed to other products containing alpha-gal.

The condition usually begins with the bite of the Lone Star tick. The bite transfers a sugar molecule called alpha-gal into the body.

Yes, I had a colleague who developed that allergy, so I needed to learn about it. No fun. Major change to a person’s life style for most. Very serious, like for someone deadly allergic to peanuts.

I’d be happy to line up for a Lyme vaccine or preventative having had it three times. But as you say, it’s not just Lyme anymore. There are at least five tick borne diseases in the Adirondacks including relatively rare Powassan which can cause fatal encephalitis and is basically untreatable. There’s a three year old girl up in Saranac Lake who contracted it at 18 months and has barely survived it. I’m with you; I pretty much bathe in insect repellent and have an extensive wardrobe of Insect Shield clothing. Even that hasn’t always kept me safe. My primary physician dismissed symptoms one autumn and a neurologist ordered a test - positve. Had me beat down for 6 months after the antibiotics and I still wonder about chronic affects. Primary got with the program and agrees that with the time I spend outdoors/paddling an annual test in Nov makes sense.

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I too have been diagnosed with it, and treated for it, three times. And only one of those infections exhibited the classic bullseye rash. The first two times we had two dogs and I was always pulling ticks off them as we walked in the local (New Jersey) woods a lot. The third time was in 2012 and we hadn’t had dogs for a few years. It made me wonder if this time it was a new infection or a recurrence. My doctor said we’ll never know. I just hope I never get it again.

Speaking of Docs not listening, the first time I had Lyme was back in the mid/late 90’s. My GP sent me to a specialist, and she said that Lyme was a “Myth”, and that I likely had Syphilis. I walked out.

Tested positive for Lyme a week later. I was on antibiotics for 3 months afterward because it came back when I finished the initial course of meds. I don’t take it lightly, because the treatment makes me feel worse than Lyme does, and my skin becomes hyper light sensitive. Last time, I fried both hands through SPF 50 sunscreen mowing the lawn.