New Riot Site/Boats

-- Last Updated: Jan-04-04 3:17 PM EST --

Riot revamped its site and now has new boats in the touring and rec categories. The most interesting one for me though is the "Brit Style" Aurora - 17'10"x20.5", VCP hatches, skeg. Sports what appears to be fairly acute chines and doesn't seem to have a lot of rocker -- a cruiser to be turn by leaning/edging.

This boat may be compared to and/or in competiton with the Necky Chatham in the "new" touring category of boats.

http://www.riotkayaks.com

sing

Possible 2nd foster rip off
the dimensions and hull characteristics look alot like Foster’s Silhouette. The chines don’t look quite as distinct though, and it says v shaped hull not rounded. But 17’10" with a 20.5" beam with a relatively low fore and aft deck. The way the hatches are recessed even looks like foster’s. Of course alot of these boats start to look alike after a while. They all have vcp hatches, a keyhole cockpit, etc, etc.



Riot still did a better job with the deck lines than foster, he won’t hear a word against the way they’re shipped, even thought they don’t have full rescue lines.

sure looks like a
Paradigm/ Sultan. Scott Williams teamed up with Riot and…



Many say Scott got the original idear from his buddy and (at the time) business partner, NF.



http://www.capital.net/com/nckayak/williams_performance_kayak.htm



steve

Azul Sultan
I don’t think this is a new boat or a copy of the Foster Silohette, but just a renaming of their Sultan which they were marketing under the Azul brand name before they consolidated everything under the Riot name. The Sultan is a hull that they didn’t design themselves, but bought the rights too from “Paradigm” which was a small company in Florida that origionally designed and built the boat. At least that is what I was told from the dealer that I bought my Azul Sultan from. I find it well built, reasonably stable for its’ width, carves turns and is quite quick.

I thought Riot was the parent company
of Azul. So why the name change?



The story of kayak designers ripping each other off has so many variations, twists, and turns I don’t find it hard to see why some just give up.



This one may not be an outright rip-off due to Foster’s involvement, but it certainly isn’t exactly an original design is it?

the way I heard it…
NF had nothing officially to do with Scott’s Paradigm (original name for the Sultan/ Aura) design. The similarities are there for sure but me thinks the design is Scott’s original idea, done outside of the business relationship the two had. NF wasn’t exactly happy about all the similarities.



Riot’s gone thru alot of changes over the years and this appears to be a consolidation/ re-name scheme.



just my observation.



steve

Seriously…

– Last Updated: Jan-05-04 10:43 AM EST –

how many sea kayak designers sit in a vacuum and come up with a totally "unique" design? We're talking about a craft that's been around for how long? Short of taking someone's boat and making mold with it...

Now if you want a truly "unique" design (even here it's a "catakayak"), here's one but do you want to "paddle" it? :)

http://www.wavewalk.com

Having said the above, my sense is that are still design boundaries being pushed in the WW and Surf arenas.

sing