We agree on many more subject than we disagree Alice. I have friends around here (GOOD Friends) who I disagree with on some subjects yet I have a deep friendship and love for many of them.
Censorship is like the very worst kind of parasite. One that kills itās host and at the death of the hose it dies also. Open communication is what keeps compromise an option. Censorship closes the talks down and when the talking stops itās 100% certain conflict is coming. āLiberalsā never seem to understand that historical truth. And it works that way at every level from the family all the way to nations and wars. When censorship is used the censor things they are winning, but in fact itās only a form of self destruction. This forum needs members to exist. Not 1 of those members needs this forum. So censor them and what youāll have (and are close to it now) is a small forum of people who agree, (whatās important to liberals apparently) and have no more to share that is of any real value.
Any people that I see as being interesting and knowledgeable enough to covet a friendship with I exchange phone numbers with and 'home e-mail addresses" so without the forum I still can correspond and learn. I have done that for the last 3 years or so and now I have the addresses of several paddlers from 7 places in the USA, 3 in Canada, one in England, one in Finland, one in New Zealand, and I hope to add a few more. So with my actions of trying to make personal contact with other paddlers I have a good list of people that i can learn from and that have asked me many times about what I know, not in only kayaking but mostly in other subjects.
When it comes to understanding the effects of communism itās very safe to say I know A LOT. I spent about 1/2 of my adult like in war zones that were thrust into poverty and conflict by communist factions, not always as a combative myself, but also as a fact finder for US and Allied nations. And to quote Engels āthe best young communist is one who doesnāt know what a communist is, and is kept form learning about opposing systemsā
Have you ever heard of the 5 monkey experiment?
What is the Five Monkeys Experiment?
it goes a little something like this:
A researcher puts five monkeys in a cage. Thereās a bunch of fruit hanging from a string, with a ladder leading to that fruit. When the first monkey goes for the fruit, the researcher sprays all five monkeys with freezing water for five minutes. Sometime later, when a second monkey inevitably tries to go for the fruit, the researcher once again sprays all five monkeys with the cold water for five minutes. The researcher then puts the hose away and never touches it again. But, when a third monkey tries to go for the fruit, the other four attack him to prevent him from climbing that ladder. They are afraid of the punishment that may come.
Then, the researcher replaced one of the monkeys with a new monkey who wasnāt part of the original experiment and was never sprayed with water. And as soon as he touches the ladder to go for the hanging fruit, the other four monkeys attack him to keep him from doing so. If he tries again, they attack him again. Thus, the new monkey learns not to go after the fruit because heāll get attacked if he does.
The researcher replaces a second monkey with another new monkey. When this monkey goes for the hanging fruit, the other four attack him, including the new monkey never sprayed with water. The researcher then continues to replace all the monkeys one at a time until all five original monkeys are removed from the cage. Each time the newcomer goes for the fruit, the others attack, even when they, as new monkeys, have never received punishment for going after the fruit. And thus, the new monkeys, who have never been sprayed with cold water, learn not to go after the temptation of the fruit
The researchers hypothesize that if they ask the monkeys why they donāt go for the hanging fruit theyād answer, ābecause thatās the way itās always been done.ā Thatās what we call the Five Monkey Experiment āSyndrome.ā
What can the Five Monkeys Experiment Teach Us?
There is controversy over whether the Five Monkeys experiment even really happened. But still, thereās a lot to learn from this, even if itās only viewed as an analogy.
The five monkeys experiment says a lot about the pervasiveness of traditions and fear based on information that may not even be relevant within any organization. The bottom line however is simply that a very few in any groups can actually think for themselves and ask the correct questions. When those questions are asked openly and the āanswerā is an attacked instead of logic being used, itās likely you are starting out on the correct path to freedom from a prisoner mindset because those mindless attacks are proof the others are NOT thinking for themselves.
They see the potential answer as dangerous to their comfort zones and so they try to keep the prisoner mindset strong and in place both their own and yours too if possible.
Censors are bound by such fears. Fear of something being true which they may not want to BE true ā and also fear of āoffendingā those they see as influencers in their little world.
Just like young communists who do not know what a communist is, the lower tiered censors often have no idea about the subject matter and Franky do not care. They care only about being part of the āgroup thinkā mentality and having the acceptance of others who have no more power to effect positive chance then the censors do. Blind both leading and following the blind. And it doesnāt ever just stagnate. It always tends towards conflict and destruction of what they think they are defending.
Truth is seldom fun. Itās not easy to accept. Itās never the popular stand. (Name 1 time in 6000 years of recorded history when the opinion of the masses was correct) Truth is always called for people to take INDIVIDUAL responsibility. Itās never smooth and it sometimes not safe.
But itās always true.
Iāll stick around here because I am still picking up good information and when asked Iāll tell people what I know and REALLY tell them what I donāt know and want to learn.
But I for one do not accept censorship and especially the most cowardly kind of all, which is self censorship. Iāll answer to the very best of my knowledge and belief and if I am wrong Iāll be wrong loud and in public. In that way others can learn from my mistakes. But Iāll never stoop to the lowest level of cowardice which is censorship. Censors are the same kind of people that mislead children and do so by the same methods.
Now i guess we will see if this post is also censored, and if it is I believe we can see without doubt that all I said here is correct, which is WHY such things are censored.
Any cop, lawyer or Judge knows the way you come to the truth is by examination and cross examinations. Said simply, you get people to tell the truth and others to ,lie, and the lies are exposed by the truth. But censors always try to cover the TRUTH, never a lie. Lies fall down by themselves. One of the most pivotal case in the history of US jurisprudence is Maranda V Arizona, the case that said (a) itās not possibly to unknowingly waive any right and (b) no one can be compelled to testify against themselves lawfully under ANY circumstances. Now we all know the āMaranda warningā from TV and so on, but few realize what was at stake and the whyās of that case. In effect it told the population how important it was to keep quiet until you have competent council because even innocent statements can be used against the defendant. Said another way, the truth will come out through what is said and admissible in court. However NO cop, Judge or Lawyer tries to censor his opponent because censorship is ONLY used to cover up whatās true. Never a lie. Lies are exposed by statements in writing or spoken.
Itās the same everywhere. Censors only stop people when whatās said is true. Lies get shot down easily but only if they are available to āshoot atā.
So if my writing is worth time and of interest to others let them read. Let them disagree. Let then counter with what they know and believe. But if itās censored there is NO exchange with pleases the cowards and is a disservice to all others.
