Plan B
Your ONNO seat was my plan B, if the seat pan itself was not comfortable. What’s the width of the seat pan on that one, say at the level of the hips?
Same as above
I used an IR backband. I had a Banshee gel seat cushion that was great, but they went out of business and the cushion sprung a leak. I’m still looking for a good cushion. The pan only doesn’t work for me and I’ve tried several cushions.
I’ll be watching this thread for other suggestions too.
Good Luck
Randy
just backband
The seat pan seems very comfy to me. No need to cut it out. I even left the velcro on it and never notice it at all. I just put an IR backband in, which takes about 10 minutes. Two holes in the seat support have to be drilled.
snap dragon
back band w/ stock seat. I velcro a pad to the seat. I am very happy with this set up.
Snap Dragon
Does the Snap Dragon install using existing mounting holes and does it ratchet to adjust. Do these back bands adjust up and down at all or is the band height depending on mounting location. While I am at it, in everyone’s opinion, where should the back band hit you for best fit/support?
Thanks
I would like to throw a thought your way
based on some experience.
I had a kevlar 700 for quite a few years, and after an initial adjustment of the back band had no problem with the comfort of the seat for the whole time I had it.
This past year I traded it in for a new carbon kevlar one, and all I did was suffer with the seat. I couldn’t go a few miles without my butt killing me.
I didn’t quite understand it, since it was the same seat, and screwed around adding padding, etc for several trips with no good results.Like you, I was all ready to try a new seat out.
Then it dawned on me that I might have the back band too far back, so I tightened it way up.
I immediately noticed that it was just as comfy as the old boat, and now, I can paddle all day long and get out of the boat with my butt feeling as good as when I got in it.
You might want to try the same thing before you jump to a new seat.
Jack L
QCC Seat
Thanks Jack,
I appreciate your insight, you are a long time QCC owner, so I will give that a shot. I did cinch it up last time out and it was better, thinking I may reposition the seat bottom as well.
Try This Search Engine
http://groundclutter.com/search/
Open a container of your favorite malt beverage, sit back (but not too far back) and enter: “QCC seating” -you’re in for quite a read!
By the way, there are folks who liked the stock QCC seat\back support; Rebecca and I did not.
Experiment until you find something that works for your unique body.
Good luck.
MikeT
SD band
The SD rigid plastic backband has holes every inch or so, but no ratchet. You adjust by moving the bolts to different holes. I hold the back up with bungee cord from the d-rings on the backband to the existing underdeck mounting points that held the original seat back in place. That allows it to pivot while paddling, and to be pulled up to stash stuff behind the seat. The band sits just below the coaming, which seems to be the right height to me. There was no drilling needed, but it took a few tries to settle on which holes to use.
no pad
I have always found that seating is about support not padding. I’m 6’ 2" 225 and shoe horn in to my 500. The seat pan is perfect for support. It should just hold your butt and support the top of your thighs. You back shouldn’t really touch the back band while paddling except at the top of your butt. If you don’t have a 500, yours probably doesn’t allow you to lift your knees as much, which can cause your legs to fall asleep. This can be confused with lack of padding. Thigh pillows are great but I’d you are having a hard time fitting in the seat a replacement would be needed before padding in my opinion. The onnoseat looks completely awesome and i wish i had it put on my boat when it was getting built. I don’t know why boat builders don’t embrace the large bucket seat. My oldtown otter rec seat is the most comfortable seat ever made. I ripped it out and put in a few other boats. But it won’t fit in my qcc. If you must pad you could mini cell the seat pan but I like the lower center of gravity with out it.
Hope this helped.
Ryan L.
lounge back
The lounge back may be big for the 600. The smaller version would work fine. When you install it make sure you put it around the out side of the seat posts, unlike the stock seat. It won’t cut into your kidneys that way. You will have to drill new holes. Don’t be scared. Start small and go bigger to avoid cracking. Like jack said you will need to tighten up the back. That will help.
Ryan L.
QCC Seating
WOW!!!
Thanks for the link…library…weekend’s entertainment!
Yes, the old seat has to be popped out
I recommend paddling the boat in various conditions and finetuning the seat position before bonding it in.
Can use 3M 4200 / 5200. Seat bonds to hull or can be adapted to work with side pillars in a bolt in scenario.
Need a height to give a width.
@ 4" its about 16".
snap dragon
I used existing holes, it was very easy to install. Mine does not ratchet but can be adjusted. You cannot adjust the height but it fits me just fine.
Yep
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That's exactly what I did and I like it. Just take out the pad, velcro and install the backband of your choice. Very simple and it does not affect the structure of the boat.
Just to confuse things
I have a QCC700. I removed the pad arrangement and installed an IR backband as others above have suggested. I found that cinching it up tight was neither comfortable nor conducive to good paddling form. So I loosened it until it was no longer really functional. Worked fine. I intend to remove it when I get a chance. Most people do not need back support.
Happy QCC Paddler With No Back Support
Rebecca “humored” me, and let me install a NRS back band, and velcro a Seal Line seat cushion to the seat pan of her QCC 400.
After one trip, she lost and back band and for several years has been happy as a clam paddling without any back support.
Alas, this old person lacks the hamstring flexibility to go without a back band - but I keep my back band loose enough to not support my back during actual paddling, only to allow me to rest as needed with back support.
Your experiences may, and likely will vary.
Mike
QCC 700 Seat
I have a QCC 700. I have been playing with the seat for a year. I think my final solution is foam and the original seat pad. I am 6’4" 215lbs. I have tight hamstrings which helped me hang around above the rim playing basketball. The major problem I had was having my legs too prone and the deck too low. I noticed improvements with the progression of the paddling season. I tried a Snap Dragon back band with nylon webbed straps and standard seat. It was uncomfortable after paddling a few hours. I surmised my body twist was being blocked by the back band and strapping, knee location, and prone legs. I also did not have any support under my thighs. I bought a few rolls of camping foam to install in the boat. I removed the seat. I cut a 2.5 foot piece of foam out that had notches for the hip braces and a U shaped hole for my rump (CLC tractor seat). I carried the foam out far enough to put strips of 2-3 in foam for hamstring support. I dropped the original seat pad in. I am very happy with the comfort right now. I will have the final results this paddling season. I do own quite a few boats. I like the QCC 700 for the long fast and camping paddles.
JimZ
Redfield
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If my memory serves me correct I thought someone on this board had cut out the QCC seat and installed a Redfish.
Redfish? (nm)