The CO2 link to ocean acidification and 19 'mass extinctions' with CO2 levels we're now heading toward

You need to reexamine your beer/crawfish consumption ratio. As well, the technique is more of a pinch and push than a peel for quick eating.

If I ever get back there, I’ll work on my peeling method.
The most memorable gumbo I ever had was full of peeled shrimp, oysters, crab claws and veggies. The runner up was a restaurant on the Gulf near Panacea, Florida where I spent the first 2 years of my life.
Love that country.
This apple I’m eating is a letdown after those thoughts.

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I don’t eat bugs!

The nice part of being part of the over 65 demographics is we are on the down wind side of life having our good years behind us living them out in a far different world. We won’t be around to see how it all plays out and most likely will take the blame for it all in the end.

They say with age comes wisdom well that’s what they used to say. Now they say if you are old you get canceled unless your opinion falls in line with the proper opinions.

One thing no one can change is we all get old.

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2023 confirmed as world’s hottest year on record (bbc.com)

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I’ve heard crawdads called “bugs.” They do look insectlike. Then again, look at a whole skinned scrawny chicken and it looks reptilian. Beef carcasses don’t look so great, either. Even though the cut, packaged meat parts still look not so great, we are conditioned to knowing the taste and appearance of the cooked item. Our noses and taste buds remember, so we don’t dwell on the animalness of the food.

People grimace at the sight of a fish that’s been grilled or steamed whole with skin, head, eyes, tail, fins, and all. In other cultures, it is considered good food, especially since there it has been caught locally and promptly cooked.

My parents boiled a lobster alive when I was a kid. There’s no way anyone can prove the lobster doesn’t feel pain. Its frantic attempts to climb out show otherwise. I never wanted to eat lobster after seeing that, though admittedly that’s about cruelty, not ick factor.

A Mexican comedian joked that while US Anglos deride minorities for packing a big family into a small car or living with many people in very small quarters, Mexicans think that one or two people needing gigantic vehicles for transporting themselves is the height of silliness. Yeah, it’s a joke, but once again the point is that not all people think the way WE do.

Great read. They mention El Nino about a half dozen times in the article but don’t show what percentage of the record is attributed to man made climate change and what part is El Nino. They strongly suggest in saying last year 1.48c rise is highest from when man started burning fossil fuels in a major way in the opening sentence. Then about half way thru the read they mention it is in part El Nino stacked on top of man made climate change. Then they provide a link to their article on just El Nino, then mention many scientist are confused as to what is going on.

The article on El Nino is dated 6/8/23 and this one comes today 1/9/24.
Link to the first one.

In that article they mention CO2 levels often go up during an El Nino period as hot periods in tropical areas are also dryer and that slows plant growth that would sink free CO2 in the atmosphere.

Reading both articles together from the same source add additional insight into the reporting. The other noticeable difference in the two related topics is the El Nino piece being about naturally occurring climate change doesn’t contain the ominous photos of the Canadian wildfires trying to link them directly to manmade climate change. Instead the El Nino piece shows a girl poling a homemade raft during a flood. Nobody is cooking.

So I have to ask where would the curve be if the El Nino effect was removed? Would it be down in the gray area or still the hottest year on record caused by manmade climate change?

We as a nation are so far removed from food production kids today in a large part when asked where milk comes from say the store.

Every generation even now among rural kids are out of the loop. Just 50 years ago farm kids were asked to go out and get the eggs and bring back the old hen as we are having roasted chicken for dinner. They knew what that entailed mom didn’t expect a live chicken brought into the kitchen. We have a young couple living a few doors down and they built a coop and have chickens now. I was talking to them and she said we did it to show the kids where food comes from. They told me the kids feed the chickens and gather eggs and even clean the coop. I asked them if the kids helped with the butchering when the time came? She said oh God no we don’t eat those chickens they have names and are like pets to the kids. So just to get it correct I asked do you eat chicken and she said yes just the store bought ones that are all done.

4H kids raise a market pig to enter in the fair and they work with the pig everyday teaching it to show in the ring and grooming it etc. The last day of the fair is market auction and they sell their pig to the highest bidder to be butchered. It is a way of life for rural kids.

On the other hand 4H memberships are at an all time low. Family farms are not rolling over to the next generation as they once did and corporate farms are not interested in teaching kids the old ways.

How many kids even know what’s in a McNugget? I’m not sure myself now that I think about it. Maybe Bugs! McBugget hmmm

Truth.

In the year I spent in Korea, I went from Ewwww! to that smells and tastes pretty good and sometimes I wasn’t sure what it was.
Our local Doc said don’t worry about it if its well cooked.
In China I never had the Ewww! reaction but was still a little cautious. Never tried the shore birds cooked with their heads and legs on. The steamed veggies were good. The McDonald’s burgers were not.

Never had a Chinese Mac. I can only imagine, and the thought does not bring me joy.

What grossed me out in Korea was seeing dead chickens hanging above other foods below in bowls by street vendors during the heat of summer. I did however, away fro the chickens, check out the huge bowls of tiny baby crabs in a spicy sauce. Not too bad.

I see that Korea is trying to keep people from eating dog. They had butcher shops with skinned Fidos in the window and live ones in the back in 1975.
The working girls liked boiled silk worms and clams. Little was wasted there.

I dont go to Korea to eat. I don’t eat bugs or McDonalds hamburgers and you can have my crawdads.

Have not had time lately to follow this lengthy thread (so forgive me if this has already been addressed) but I just came upon this mini-documentary showing how Lithium battery recycling is currently being done in the USA with little or no pollution and 95% recovery of usable materials. And the operation is expanding. Since skepticism about the long term feasibility and environmental impact of battery power is often thrown into discussions like this one, I thought this reality check ought to be more widely publicized.

My sense is that electric vehicles might eventually have interchangeable power packs (like our cordless tools now have) and drivers will be able to simply pull into a service station and quickly swap a discharged battery for an equivalent charged one for a fee (like trading in your emptied propane grill fuel canister). Meanwhile, technology continues to work not only on new and more efficient batteries but ways to maintain a recycling loop with them.

I have seen quite similar plants for recycling lead acid IC car batteries. The concept is the same grind them up and separate the materials with a closed loop water system for separation and then eventually a stacked filter for fines.

All these systems work based around material costs to make new vs reclaimed.

Aluminum is a good example the number of tons of earth that has to be removed and then the number of tons of Bauxite ore to be processed to make just a pound of pure aluminum is unreal. Processing costs are equipment and energy with a little labor. So it is very logical to collect aluminum cans and reprocess them. Something like car tires raw material is some of the waste products from petrochemical industry where fuels are the main goal. We make so much fuel trying to make new tires out of old is more expensive so we see mountains of used tires around. Crum rubber is useful but the demand isn’t nearly equal to the resource of junk tires. So it is most likely a good thing that lithium is expensive and rare. If we discover salt will work just as good somehow we will have huge piles of EV batteries in landfills.

The aluminum, copper and rare earth stuff is what makes it profitable to recycle. There is also a huge cost in energy and facilities to accomplish what was shown in the video and then the metal scrap has to be further made back into a product. Seems a bit of a waste to grind up that big aluminum frame of the EV battery spend all the money to separate the aluminum and then recast it back into the same frame.

IC cars are no different melt down the engine block and then cast another block when only a little bit of the cylinder wall has wore away. Locomotive engines and large equipment have removable sleeves and other replaceable parts and with minimal effort they are like new again.

I would think when EVs become mainstay of transportation the batteries will be designed to go down an assembly line manned with robots and automation and come out new again using 95% of the same parts.

People are not ready to spend 20k when the odometer hits 100k for a new battery pack. Try selling a used car with 80K with the buyer knowing what is coming soon.

So, with the eventual demise of petroleum distallation, where will asphalt and tar come from for road building purposes? I don’t think the likes of the la brea tar pits and maybe a few others found naturally on earth are quite large enough to rebuild or maintain our nation’s road system. What are we going to do about that, “Mayor” Pete?

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Trust the innovators (and capitalists). Roads will not wear away to wagon paths after gasoline refining peaks.

Visted Car dealer for warranty work. Found out Chevrolet no longer makes Cruz, Malibu or Impala. No sedans. Only SUVs and Trucks. So will the government just ban SUVs and trucks. With any luck, maybe ill be dead before I have to negotiate this quagmire of a failing planet, nuclear proliferation, communist countries trying to reclain former colonies and any place that has democratic rule because it’s a bad example that makes dictatorships look oppressive. The green scare resulted in the sedans being deleted from inventory the SUV and truck as the only option. Best laid plans go awry. Dont worry about green. Next year when Iran gets nukes, they will resolve their differences and follow the reason the country exists. According to it’s holy leader, their csllingbus to bringn on Armageddon. In the aftermath, earth will heal. Applause!!! Problem solved.

A cheerful post to start the day.