If dairy and beef cows are coming into question and the equation run that Bill Gates and others are presenting show that the protein produced per CO2 made as a waste product is compared to meal worms grown. We find we are much better off eating a meal of meal worms than a nice cold glass of milk or a nice porterhouse steak. Personally I think we will all enjoy a meal worm burger just as much.
Before we slaughter all the cows though we need to get rid of the rest of the methane producing monsters that provide really no good needed product in today’s world unless you are Amish. Yes lets slaughter all large pets including the 60,000,000 horses that are doing no good and producing too much methane and CO2. At least at most large dairy operations now a day they collect the manure and run it thru a digester use the gas to power IC engines and produce electric to power the farm and what is left over is farm needed nutrients natural fertilizer as opposed to the nasty chemical fertilizer made from fossil fuels. The digester outputs CO2 mostly and that is intern goes back into the cattle feed being grown in the fields as a temporary sinked carbon.
These horses need to be gone ASAP as they really are just pets and serve no use. I asked our Amish neighbor how many MPG he got on his buggy a while back. he laughed and said well keep in mind this is a 4WD and then he got out a cloth bag and a tin cup that looked to be about two cups and in the bag were oats and he said a full cup is enough to get me to the saw mill and home a distance of about 30 miles. He said he pays about 4.00 dollars per bushel for oats and he heard we English were paying about that for a gallon of gas. My car goes about 30 miles on a gallon of gas I told him. He said he wondered how many of tin cups there was in a bushel? I just told him I didn’t know but he was getting over 300MPG. Now if I was thinking I would have told him don’t get to used to it the government is coming for your horse because it is making too much CO2 and your buggy will need to be converted to a clean EV buggy. =
I am not suggesting that cattle production be eliminated, only that the wasteful, environment-damaging methods be changed.
While mealworms and insects don’t appeal to me at all, stop to think about how gross some of the common “normal” foods really are. Eggs, for example. They’re culturally normal to eat. In other places, bugs are normal to eat. So what.
Regarding buggy vs ICE, that’s just one more example of targeting a mode instead of targeting conservation. Combine errands in one trip, take the best route for the conditions, routinely ask yourself if that trip is necessary. It doesn’t mean never do anything unnecessary, but form the habit of checking its value to you vs negative aspects.
Yep, we could add others, some of which are prized luxurious foods. Lobster*, caviar, raw fish, raw oysters* (supermegaultra ICK). Plenty of candidates for the cultural bias list.
There is a good documentary on YouTube that was made by Epoch TV titled No farmers no food: Will you eat bugs that shows what some of the world is adapting to. Here is a link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaW_PZVvzME
I’m a food person and I’m not opposed to any foods in fact more foods the better. That doesn’t mean I will like them all or I will willingly eat bugs over eggs. Different cultures become easy eating different things. Fish eggs to some are a great delicacy and I have had Russian caviar when a Russian woman I met insisted I give it a try. It was made better after each cracker loaded with black fish eggs was followed by a shot of Russian vodka. I eat baby beef liver but really enjoy chicken liver. Trouble is I have to fix it when she is away as just the smell of it cooking is more than she care for. Bugs are just another food and one that doesn’t appeal to me but if I’m starving and bugs are it then I’m sure I will develop a taste.
It is a little like when I overheard a young woman say when another woman went to breast feed her baby. She said gross its so unnatural.
My opposition is when someone decides for me that beef needs to go and needs to be replaced by another protein such as bugs.
I live in a rural place and many friends and family are farmers. All the farmers I know do a job for the rest of us that would likely kill us if done for a week. They follow every rule to the letter and most don’t realize how little they actually make at the end of a year. They don’t stop because they can’t see themselves doing anything but farming. Rules and regulations have slowly shifted away from smaller family farms. I know a family that hung on in the dairy business till the end. The farmer told me he was at a loss to the tune of 1000 dollars per cow per year. And he was milking 160 cows and had close to 250 in total. One out of four years milk prices would go up and his costs would go down and they would decide to stick with it a little longer. The funny part was they always felt like if they could grow in size things would be better. Cows got milked 3 times a day each time took 3-4 hours and this went on 365 days a year. To take a day off you needed to find someone you could trust to fill in and that was hard to do. I watched them pour 10,000 gallons of milk out on the field when some kid they hired milked a cow that was being treated into the bulk tank. Places like Wal-Mart are now building mega dairy farms with bottling plants attached and run around the clock like a factory. It is hard to compete with that scale of an operation.
As to combining trips and such to save fuel. Most average people have been doing that for year with the price of cars and fuel and maintaining. Most don’t drive anymore than they have to just to save a buck. The big corporation I worked for back in the Carter days of gas rationing came up with an idea of van pooling people to work. They bought 30 twelve passenger vans and if a group of people could find 8 or more people to get started the company would give us the van and we would have taken out of our pay an amount like a car payment plus fuel that the company bought in bulk each week out of our paychecks. I was driving 22 miles each way and I signed up and we soon had 12 paying riders and a route that wasn’t too bad but not the shortest distance. It cost me about 15 bucks a week and allowed us to not need a second car. We drove that van for 15 years until the wheels were falling off. We even had a couple bondo parties to patch it up. We were the next to the last van running and we begged the company to do it again but new management saw no reason to.
That was a program some CEO thought up it was a win-win and good for the country and the environment and as far as I know the government had nothing to do with it. Plus I made a lot of new friends on the van. Some guys got extra sleep. The drawback was if each person takes just two minutes getting in or out that’s 20 minutes each way longer. Couldn’t get it thru some peoples head not to stay in the warm house until we pulled up. The other disadvantage is I was second on and the backup driver. A 12 passenger van empty on snow is a bear to drive. When it finally filled up it was like a tank though. We used to joke we need a big bag of sand for each person to put on when they got off.
This doesn’t surprise me in the least. I would think they’re using those canoes not only for simple recreation, but also fishing for food.
Reading the conversation here (not you), I’m struck by the irony of seeking to lessen GHG emissions in food production (a necessity) while engaging in a completely unnecessary, GHG emission producing, leisure activity. To paraphrase a previous poster; you want to impact GHGs? Stop driving your car, so you can paddle.
I was in a company-managed vanpool at one place. People put their names on wait lists to participate. Part of our pay was deducted to pay into the expense of running the vans, but it was more than reasonable. It saved me a 35-mile round trip each day.
There were other benefits besides the main one. When a van slid off the road shoulder, there were 8 to 15 passengers to push it out! Cameraderie, too—we got to learn about what went on in other departments besides our own.
Vanpools like that have a big advantage over private carpools: you avoid the inevitable pleas for a special favor that deviates from the route, so someone can run an errand or pick up their kid, etc.
Yes they hunt and fish and trap. They have no electric to their homes have pit toilets and hand pumps on the water well. Heat with wood. The latest thing is they build a little shed about 50 yards from the house and have a land line installed as they are not allowed cell phones. When I had the Amish putting a metal roof on my house he needed supplies and asked to use my iPhone. I thought this will be fun as I barely can use the stupid thing. He had no problems swiping and tapping away. I had them build a garage for a lady I know all metal. He wired the whole thing but asked me to come over and connect the power as he was not allowed. He did a pretty good job on the wiring and the garage is beautiful.
We paddle about 5 places and on one creek and they are all less than 5 miles from home. With a bucks worth of gas we have a full day of enjoyment fishing or sightseeing. When I used to golf it cost us 100 bucks or more by the time we had lunch. Lunch paddling comes from home. And if I get a few fish dinner is free.
Well, at least your content is consistent. That YouTube channel’s offerings read like a capsule of far-right fever dreams: eating bugs, Hunter Biden’s private parts, and anti-CCP videos. Trump’s face is featured on every fifth video or so. I mean, nobody would accuse me of being a fan of the Chinese Communist Party, but it really amazes me that Falun Gong has captured so many of the over-65 demographic of American viewers.
I’m glad your grocery store is full of bugs because I went looking for crawfish last weekend, and they were sold out. I had to cook chicken jambalaya instead.
