Rookie,
Want to borrow one of my Lendal Cadences when the Cyprus goes to the spa?
See you on the water,
Marshall Seddon
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Sounds like another good reason to wear a traditional PFD!
If you did some research and found that others have had the same issue it sure sounds like a marginal/poor design (unless you feel that you have been abusing the paddle). I have never heard of water penetrating a carbon canoe paddle and I’ve used many (including a 6 ounce ultra light) on shallow rivers with constant hard rock hits; carbon canoe paddles typically have at least half an inch of solid carbon fiber at the edges before you can get to a hollow or foam filled fore. Unless you used it as a shovel and also to chop down trees I’d expect the manufacturer of such an expensive premium paddle to stand behind their product regardless of the warranty period.
Thanks, Marshall. Will cross that bridge when I come to it. Alas, my pseudo-MacGyver attempt didn’t go well today. The electrical tape I used was vinyl and started to peel off about 20 minutes.
Tomorrow it shall be helicopter tape!
@TomL The other cases I read about had water in the shaft which was caused by a leak in the plug. One guy drilled a hole in the plug to release the water (unlike mine which drips from the blade edge) then resealed the entire plug.
No shoveling, chopping, rock gardening or playing lawn darts with it. Paddle is transported in a Seals padded bag I bought from The River Connection, rinsed at home after each use and stored on the wall, blades up.
My hands were dry today as was the shaft, except where it meets the joint and is submerged during the catch. So far about a teaspoon of water has dripped out from a specific area on that blade edge. As that’s the only place the water comes out, then I figure that’s got to be where it enters.
If I do have to send it to Werner and they don’t cover it under warranty, I’m not sure I’ll want to pay $228 to fix it since that’s more than half the cost of a new paddle. Guess that will depend on what they find.
Rookie,
Great documentation.
I’m a little curious about the fascination with foam core carbon paddles. Yes, they are very light, but Werner’s glass paddles are pretty light too and you can have two glass paddles for the price of one carbon paddle. None of my glass paddles have ever leaked water and they are prettier than black carbon.
I do have a carbon, but I never use it.
Some of Werner’s designs are only available in foam CF.
You can have 4 FG paddles for the cost of 2 carbons. What are you going to do with 4 paddles? Might as well stick to the 2 carbons.
The glass paddles can be prettier but there is some elitism attached to black…
They make really nice gifts when you want to impress someone or forget an anniversary.
You want to look faster than you are.
We’re getting older and need every bit of help we can get.
Just FYI I’ve never had any issue with electrical tape sticking to any of my canoe paddles so don’t give up on the theory that your paddle may be haunted.
You must have better tape than I do. Put on white heavy duty Gorilla tape, which makes the paddle look like it visited the E.R.
I guess I could just stick it in a bucket of water for testing, but that would be less fun than the real thing. Plus, there’s a pair of visiting loons wearing their fall/winter plumage and I’d love to get a closeup photo.
@magooch I have a FG paddle. During my ACA L1 my coach let me try his Werner Cyprus. I thought the weight, balance, and feel were amazing. It was like holding air. Was lucky to get one under my Christmas tree that year. If I have to send in the Cyprus, I guess I could use the FG. Or take Marshall up on his offer as that Lendal Cadence looks like a pretty nice paddle.
No way was that my response.
Right. Rookie was just addressing your previous post.
This is what I was responding to. FG - fiberglass.
I used to have a kayak that I ‘kind of’ liked, but sharks liked it better.
Really, it wasn’t because of all the mocking comments I got from others of all the ‘gray-tape’ patching small holes all over the boat as the reason that I got rid of the kayak.
If the white ‘bandage’ works, go with it, otherwise (try gray tape).
The “@” means “at”. When someone write “@magooch”, it is intended to signal that the following response is directed at you, not that it was written by you.
This is a standard, which is used “everywhere”, so you better get used to it - the world will probably not stop using it in the near future.
Comparing a Werner Standard paddle to an Ultimate paddle gives us this…
Tybee FG - 608 sq cm - 33.25oz - $135
Cyprus - 610 cm sq - 20.25oz - $415
Yes, the Cyprus is a lot more expensive but that 13oz weight difference is huge!
I’d go for the Cyprus…and I did. It’s a superb paddle.
The leak is in the joint or along the edge of the paddle. The Gorilla tape, shown in the photos, kept water from entering. Plan to drop Werner an email, including the photos, to let them know.
I have a bottle of Captain Tolley’s so will try that first unless someone has a better suggestion.
White stuff along edge of paddle is frozen snow as we had six inches overnight.
If it’s in that joint it may be structural and you just can’t see the flaw. Carry that spare…
Ooh. Agree with Grayhawk, that is not a great place to have a problem. It is a stress point in the flex of the paddle. It might just be a flaw that took some use to open up. But it could be a point of sudden failure.
Not going to be surprised if Werner offers to replace it, unless you tell them you have been out bashing the paddle on rocks for the heck of it.
Ha ha. During my few encounters with rocks my boat has had direct contact, not the paddle which is busy going in reverse or sideways to get away.
I do carry a spare unless I’m paddling at home - but last paddle here was yesterday. The Fathom goes to its Florida-like storage environment tomorrow; hoping for a break in the rain and snow to get in a few more miles in the Prana. If so, I’ll take the tape off the joint and just leave it along the edges of the blade, which is where I think the problem is. When that boat goes into winter storage, I’ll send the Cyprus to Werner.
In the off chance there’s the miracle of a mild winter, still have the 14-footer and a fiberglass paddle for some winter river enchantment. Gosh, a sunny and mild winter day would be lovely.
Good that the paddle is going in. But curious, why would paddling at home be a reason not to carry a spare? Not understanding that.
