DIY Foam/Plastic "Masik"

So, having been blown out of my cockpit while surfing some bigger waves, back in the day when I surfed with long boats and surf specific kayaks, I have a slight paranoia about any kayak with a “big” cockpit. (This is also another reason why I am pretty much a dedicated waveski surfer – because I am strapped on the ski by a seatbelt that doesn’t release unless I intentionally do so!). What’s big for kayak cockpit? Anything sized more than an ocean cockpit which is about 16"x20" for rough water. That is the size that was on my greenland SOF and I had never I come out of that boat unintentionally.

The SINK I have kept in my collection of kayaks is a limited run Roto Mystic by Impex. It’s a perfect day/play boat that I used to go out with and play around some of the rocks cliffy shorelines around the northshore of Boston and out sometimes in the smaller surf. But, always, I was leery of the bigger cockpit and didn’t want to take too much of an adventure venue. Anyway, I decided to build up a “masik” of minicell and cemented plastic (for stiffness) for the boat to give me a bit more control and a sense of safety (from getting sucked out of the boat or having the skirt imploded by a dumping wave).

This effectively reduced the s/m cockpit (18"x32") down to almost the size of an ocean cockpit (18"x20.5"):

In addition to built up and sculpting of the foam masik from three 3 layers of 1" thick minicell, I also build up a foam bulkhead between and around the footpegs:

Now, essentially instead of standard sitting arrangement in the cockpit, with feet against footpegs ,and knees bent ,and legs splayed to make contact against the thigh braces and sides to exert better boat control, I have the footpegs farther in the cockpit with the foam bulkhead which allows my legs to be almost straight. I have the slightest bend in the needs to provide contact/leverage against the pegs and built-up bulkhead. The the downside of the foam masik is just slightly above the top of my thighs. If I bend my knees just a big more, my thighs lock into the underside of the foam masik. The entire set-up makes the roto Mystic almost as snug as my SOF.

Having done this modification over 7-8 years ago, I never tried it out then because the skeg in the Mystic was stuck in a deployed position. I never got around to fixing the skeg and was frankly just really enjoying my surfing with waveskis and fishing with my SOTs. Having fixed the Mystic skeg a couple of weeks ago, I finally took the Mystic out for a little Oscar generated surf this past week. While back to sucking at long boat surfing (i.e. not have directional control of the ride), I had plenty of opportunities to do bracing, sculling and rolling when I broached and flipped. It’s been a long, long while since I have been in a SINK, but the Mystic felt more like my SOF. I was able to roll the Mystic effortlessly on either side (while on my waveskis, I am aware of a definite “offside”). I could also do a sculling brace with my body practically to a horizontal level by employing a more “greenland” approach of letting the top leg drop down next to the bottom leg, arching my back and extending out with the paddle. I wondered if it would have possible to do a static balance brace but I didn’t try as I was using a ww paddle rather that a GP to provide buoyancy. Next time.

Anyway, I find the built up foam/plastic masik a worthwhile modification. It may also for others, especially for those who really favor a smaller cockpit but can not get that as an option in their desired SINK model(s). Too bad, there were/are very few manufactured kayaks with ocean cockpits in the first place., e.g. the WS SparrowHawk, Anas Acuta, Pintail, ND Rumour, Betsie Bay.

sing

Thanks for posting this. I’ve been considering doing something to my Pygmy Arctic Tern (17" X 33").

What type of foam are you using for the footbrace?

@Rookie said:
What type of foam are you using for the footbrace?

It’s white (PE?) packing foam, similar to what is used for pool noodles. It’s softer and more porous than minicell. I had a large 2" thick sheet from an old wrestling mat. Cut to shape and duct taped it (takes too much cement to stick the porous foam together). The duct tape also provides some exterior protection.

At some point, when it wears out, I 'll replace the bulkhead with minicel foam.

sing

I like how you have the pump mounted. What did you use as a clip? Does it stay put nicely without interfering with your legs and knees - even with reentry?

For a few years I owned the second Mako surf kayak Mike Johnson had built. I know this because I had him look at my outfitting once and he recognized the boat from the measurements of the cockpit and hull. Someone told me this era of boats were called the" screaming tacos" because a few guys got stuck in them when the hulls collapsed. Not sure about that, but he cockpit was very small and snug. This only was a problem for me getting out of the boat on the beach in dumping surf. Three or four times I got some real beatings with my legs stuck in the boat when large set waves came in and dumped on me floundering around on the beach. I tried a lot of foam outfitting ideas in an Aquarius but finally just sold them both and stuck with wave skiing, where I just tug the belt and I’m free.

@Sparky961 said:
I like how you have the pump mounted. What did you use as a clip? Does it stay put nicely without interfering with your legs and knees - even with reentry?

The clip is made out of kydex and was shaped with heat. There is a screw that goes through the clip through the foam is into a plastic backing (without which, the clip would probably more likely rip out). The foam is three times the wide of the pump and slightly deeper. As you know, minicell with Weld Dap cement holds pretty securely to plastic and fiberglass. Using that with gives a lot of purchase onto the underside of the hull deck. The extra foam on either side of pump prevents my thighs from accidentally bumping into and possible knocking the pump off. But, I have not noticed every bumping into the foam around the pump (YMMV as I am smaller paddler than most folks) This particular pump is actually smaller diameter (1" rather than 1/5") and longer than most of the pumps I have seen for kayaks. It extends all the way into a slot in the bulkhead. This arrangement works for me as I am short and the bulkhead is closer to the cockpit opening than what may be for someone taller. But, something can be done with that second block of foam just before the bulkhead, such as a second kydex clip. If shaped right, the kydex clip works well as the pump pops straight up into place fairly easily but is held securely until I need to pop it down and out.

sing

@SeaDart said:
For a few years I owned the second Mako surf kayak Mike Johnson had built. I know this because I had him look at my outfitting once and he recognized the boat from the measurements of the cockpit and hull. Someone told me this era of boats were called the" screaming tacos" because a few guys got stuck in them when the hulls collapsed. Not sure about that, but he cockpit was very small and snug. This only was a problem for me getting out of the boat on the beach in dumping surf. Three or four times I got some real beatings with my legs stuck in the boat when large set waves came in and dumped on me floundering around on the beach. I tried a lot of foam outfitting ideas in an Aquarius but finally just sold them both and stuck with wave skiing, where I just tug the belt and I’m free.

Yup. The worse I witnessed with the problematic aspect of the cockpit in surf was when I was surfing a long boat with a partner in a building nor’easter (literally). He blew his roll and bailed. Before, he got out fully, he got hit with another wave. I escorted from a safe distance as he slowly swam his way in. That was it for him for the day and apparently for the next 6 months. Turned his knee got blown out when the wave hit as he was half in/half out of the cockpit.

Likewise, waveski is my first choice for surfing the good waves.

sing

@sing said:
Yup. The worse I witnessed with the problematic aspect of the cockpit in surf was when I was surfing a long boat with a partner in a building nor’easter (literally). He blew his roll and bailed. Before, he got out fully, he got hit with another wave. I escorted from a safe distance as he slowly swam his way in. That was it for him for the day and apparently for the next 6 months. Turned his knee got blown out when the wave hit as he was half in/half out of the cockpit.

Likewise, waveski is my first choice for surfing the good waves.

sing

This has me a little worried. Wonder if mangled knees happen in ww, but seems ww outfitting lends itself better to hopping in and out, while the ratcheting back band allows for cranking down the fit for rough water. Surf kayaks seem a generation or two behind with outfitting, at least compared to ww boats, and even sea kayaks that are borrowing outfitting from the ww world. Maybe it’s the low volume of surf kayaks. Or the small number of manufacturers. I feel like I’m lucky if I just get a seat and some foot blocks.
Last time I took my IC surf boat out, which has a slalom sized cockpit, I practiced a wet exit that was not as easy as I anticipated. Was a two part exit, pulled the skirt and half fell out, then had to pull my legs out and scraped up my shins in the process. In the surf zone it would not have been pretty. Maybe time to bring it inside, and remove the stock thigh braces to make it easier to get in and out of the boat. Don’t have the funds this year to switch over to a waveski, I’ll try tweaking the fit first then maybe I’ll sell in the spring if I’m still having issues.

If you ever want to get out for a long boat session I’m game, just need a bit of a heads up to arrange with the family.

@Johnnysmoke said:

If you ever want to get out for a long boat session I’m game, just need a bit of a heads up to arrange with the family.

Yeah, definitely. Now that the boat is outfitted, I intend to play a bit with it on the smaller days. My inner competitive side (with myself) is kind of bothered that I could not surf the long boat like I used to.

sing

Yeah the long boat “surfing” is a different animal than the short boats, doesn’t require the hyper second by second focus that diagonal riding short boats do, more of a point and shoot type experience. The ability to make a turn or two doesn’t hurt though.
The paddle out is definitely a bit easier, those big old bows make short work of getting out through the surf zone.
I’m sure you’ll get your mojo back quickly.

@Johnnysmoke said:
Yeah the long boat “surfing” is a different animal than the short boats,

Funny, but when I go out to play in the surf, I use my ‘short’ boat, you know, my Sterling Progression. (len: 16’)

@Johnnysmoke said:
The paddle out is definitely a bit easier,

This is a very good point, possibly overlooked by some.
When I was learning the surf (west coast, WA state, winter surf - big stuff), I would often get myself in trouble by getting through surf that I shouldn’t have been in.
I started using a white water boat instead. Safer - as I couldn’t get through the surf, if it was too big for me (unless I took the ‘cheat’ path to get out by the jetty).

Longer boats actually make it easier to catch waves, due to their higher hull speed, but staying on one is a different story.