Are we not tired of this duffis?
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You obvious dislike him, but are you so insecure you need help to do it?
Who do you think is “we”?
Why would you post that question?
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A lot of people here are tired of his stuff, but you are on the right track…I just shouldn’t’ read his posts. But it’s like watching a traffic accident…you can’t help it
Oh, and by the way, I don’t know him to dislike him. But I don’t like his his persona here.
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Just click on ignore and you will not see anything he posts…
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I agree with you 100% on the point of reading what you want to and not reading what you don’t want to.
On this forum (and several others I have used,) there are some people who just rub others the wrong way. But resorting to blocking them or censoring them just shows weakness in my mine.
Any such attempt at organization, to try to make allies against someone and set them as “the enemy” is simply to drop to the lowest level. Any such policy is a way for agitators to win.
I believe all should be allowed to speak, and those that are “popularly unpopular” will find it out by getting no feedback at all, or by being shown to be wrong and unpopular publicly. Remember the old saying “It’s better to keep silent and let the world think you may be a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt”. Let everyone speak. and truth floats up as foolishness drops down. That how it works if we simply let it.
But censorship is ALWAYS the mark of someone who is weak in either intellect, integrity or facts.
So if he rubs you wrong, ignore him. Ignore me if you’d like. Ignore anyone any time you like.
That’s a right you have that was paid for by those going before us in blood and persecution. Never drop to the level of hive-mind. You don’t have any need to do it and you have no benefit from it.
A very old principal that goes back to some of the earliest legal writings of law and history says “if you surrender small rights you are well on your way to surrendering all rights.”
You, me, he and everyone else has the right to say what they want to say ---- and all the same have the right to disagree , ignore and dislike. But never rally up any cause you don’t want to be used sometime in the same way against you.
Please take all the forgoing writing of mine NOT as an opposition ,but simply as an observation.
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People have complained about my stance of paddling 100% with a pfd on, of how tired they were of those posts. Folks have been critical of how much money I’ve spent on pfds, and also about some other things I’ve posted on this forum. I’ve chewed on some of that criticism and am none the worst for reflecting on it. Mostly though, that criticism and those posters roll off of me, like water on a duck’s back. People are allowed to have different beliefs and values. On the water, you are responsible for you.
The great thing about paddling is we all get to make your own decisions. I know I can be a jackass! Especially when I spend too much time on social media and not enough time paddling. Being on the water is what keeps this forum sane and real for me. I can honestly say I’ve paddled with some real characters from pcom. Perhaps I’m one as well. I’m sure I’ve pissed some people off. Perhaps I’m the jackass. On this forum I even used to enjoy datakoll’s random posts with all his links. People would want to ban him and debate if datakoll was actually a person or a computer program.
Sometimes my eyes would glass over when the engineers start posting vector angles, discussing fluid dynamics, viscosity, and a bunch of other stuff I don’t understand. That’s okay too- simply a reflection of my own simple-mindedness. Often it is best to keep your boat and yourself pointed downstream and paddle on. Water under the bridge. Sometimes I get grumpy and need some water therapy. Perhaps that happens to other folks as well. Let’s go paddlin! tdaniel
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I agree… and you know what…you don’t even have to be a paddler to interact with this board…still, to respond to virtually every post with no real helpful info…to Me
that make’s him to be a jackass though…
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I’d miss every 3 other posts on this site
Did I ever bring censorship up? THAT JACKASS HAS DISRESPECTED A VERY LONG TIME POSTER HERE. A few times…
True. But the “we” seems as if you were going to drift that way.
“I don’t like you” is far different then “we don’t like you”
First did you somehow becomes the spokesman for “we”, and if so why did I miss that?
Second, if it is a legitimate question as opposed to a statement of a spokesman and if moving towards some other goal other then censorship, can you please tell me and the “we” (meaning everyone else on the web site) what that goal is? Mass rebuke maybe?
But I will concede that you never directly asked for censorship. Not to this point anyway. If that was somehow offensive to you I offer apologies in advance.
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I think one of the site rules is we don’t start personal attacks and popularity contests. I tend to agree with Tony Daniel let it roll off.
On flagging I don’t do it, but if something is objectionable, I can understand why some folks would and the site allows for it to bring it to a moderator’s attention.
I have wondered if he is unable to paddle right now for some reason and this gives him an outlet. You never know what a person’s situation is from behind the black and white of the words written. Sometimes even the intended meaning isn’t clear.
Datakoll made me smile. He really was trying to be helpful.
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you are right, I should have waited a day to respond…but I would have responded the same
Just another example… a recent post strictly about canoe camping…mjac says well what about kayak camping. The post was about canoe camping.
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If I am the frequent poster he has disrespected ,I find it like talking to a petulant child who knows he’s a joke. I feel a bit sorry for him.
I hope he doesn’t drown in a bayou because he proudly doesn’t wear a PFD.
I don’t know about this guy, but that Craig_S. guy he’s a real tool. Letting himself get distracted from the topic at hand and yammering on about something or the other.
frigging tool.
The admins should just ban him just for his ugly mug.
Anyway Ohhh Squirrels… Look at them running up and down the trees looking for the chestnuts from last year. You know whats funny when I’m out paddling I see all kinds of wildlife but never squirrels. Once I saw A whitetail swim across the lake, I didn’t know they could swim never ever saw one do that before and they can move fast I tried to catch up to that buck in my boat but couldn’t I guess all the Doe’s we on the other side of the lake that day.
but anyway I digress, what was I on about, Oh yes tool, he’s a real tool.
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We put up with Coffee making all kinds of insults, both personal and collective in his every post for what was it - a decade? I think that speaks pretty well of the tolerance of our community. I, like most here, hate the idea of censorship of any sort. I believe the ability to let things “roll off our backs” is a sign of wisdom and good character. There is a limit, though, and Coffee attained it. Mjac is a long long way from it (IMHO). There’s value in toleration, even consideration, of ideas we find discomforting or trivial. There is no value in repeatedly tolerating abuse.
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Coffee was way back…and you’re right, he was confrontational…I’ll bet that there aren’t 30 of us originals here left…
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I sat out the Coffee wars without much involvement but was glad to see him leave.
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