Thinking ahead, what’s it like the end of September?
Soup, if July and August are normal.
a cold gaspacho… or a hot chili ??? Temperature?
Lukewarm. Early September can be brutally hot. I have paddled in light clothes in December. Late September into early November can be a great time to be outside.
The only forecast I trust is my weather patio when I stick my head out the door.
If you go to Lake Monster’s Lake Hartwell page and scroll, about halfway down the page, there is a chart that shows the last 4 years of water temperatures. For the end of September each year it is in the mid 70s.
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Two teens were just lost in MT when their kayak capsized. 39 degree water.
I had a paddle on the Contoocook River planned for today (quickwater/flatwater) of about 10 miles. I’m itching to get on the water but mid-April can be dicey in New Hampshire. Water levels are above normal but not flood. Air temps in the 30’s with 20 mph winds. Judged it to be borderline and went hiking instead as the other member of the party lacked some key gear for the conditions. The river isn’t going anywhere.
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And 2 men on Lake Seymour in Morgan, VT.
WCVB Boston: 2 Massachusetts men drown while canoeing on Seymour Lake in Vermont.
Don’t know if it’s happening this year because of COVID, but NH AMC White Water School weekend for Contoocook, upstream of Henniker, should be about now . The first time I attended, we were getting rain/sleet. Lots of folks went over, but all had immersion gear, be it wetsuits or drysuits. Coaches and safety assistants were quick to pull swimmers and corral boats to shore. I went twice as a student and three times as a coach. I thought my first experience was the best because of the crappy weather. (Same type of weather happened coincidentally when i took a weeklong backpacking training with AMC.) Better to experience worse conditions, with a full complement of safety personnel and coaches around, then to do it alone.
As you noted the two drownings, what you don’t know can kill you, especially when there are no back up around to warn and/or help.
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One dead & one in serious condition from Lake Huron in Ontario. From the pictures, I would not have been on the lake in a canoe that day even in a dry suit.
Your observation aligns well with a comment I made in an earlier thread: most people do not know the danger of cold water because their personal experience gives them no reason to know. Therefore, they equate the cooling effect of water at a given temperature with the cooling effect of air at the same temperature, and fail to see the risk.
Which stretch of the Contoocook river? I’m in east Concord and have been thinking of heading over that way at some point.
I’ll be up your way again this weekend - on the list of potential trips is the Contoocook - Hillsborough to Henniker and the lower Winnipesaukee in Franklin - wish me luck!
I did the flatwater section of the Contoocook from Peterborough to Bennington once - we were poling, but it was a nice flatwater run.
Hey Sing what year did you attend the NHAMC WW School. I was there in 2005 and there was freezing rain and sleet the first day - maybe we were there together. I was in a wetsuit, and it was COLD. I vaguely remember swimming a couple times the first day.
This was me the second day running the Sweet Tooth on the Sugar River
I was up in the rocks to the right - not the best line, but I made it.
Three accidents in this post all lakes. In addition to the dangers of cold water, people don’t realize how tricky it can be to paddle open water in the wind - it might not look bad from shore, or you unknowingly paddle from a protected section out into an unprotected section. Put the two together, and it is a real bad combination.
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Probably went a couple years before you. Here is a thread that you, me, Dougd and Angstrom (don’t think he or Doug are here anymore).
I loved NH AMC WW School. Great effort effort by volunteers, great weekend of paddling, skills development and relationship building. I think I met Tommy C1 there. Also, CoolCanoeChic and her significant partner who I backed up as a safety boater for a number of class II whitewater trips she let at Deerfield, upper Androscoggin, Piscat, Ashuelot…
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It’s the stretch from the US 202 crossing of the Contoocook just N of Peterborough to Powdermill Pond.
Did the class III section of the Contoocook yesterday, and continued down to through the class II section. Too busy staying upright to get any pictures on the good stuff.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/eckilson/albums/72177720298338177
Nice. That’s also best flyshing section of the Contoocook. Lots of pocket water for ww boaters and trout lairs.
I was at Quinnie yesterday for flyfishing. The water was high enough for a ww run, but nobody came down during my time there.
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Westfield release is this weekend - imagine a lot of people are there.
Did see a lot of fisherman, but you’r right - they were in the eddies and we were out in the current.