HELLO Phallic
Whats more phallic than a cigar. I can see one in your mouth right now. YOU NEED to keep your ideas to yourself. YOU ARE A DANGEROUS PADDLER. No explanation needed… !
My apologies to John
And to all the other legitimate paddlers here. You asked a legitimate question and this guy went phallic somehow. In the interest of good paddling and life saving info I will NOT again entertain his retoric.
If you think I’m not serious about
safety on the river, you are badly mistaken. I wish I had money for all the river accident reports I have (carefully) written for a wide paddling audience. I could buy a couple of top-of-the-line paddles.
You seem to have trouble dealing with diverse opinion. There is a lot of diverse opinion about safety measures, and it’s related to the fact that for most safety measures, there is a lack of data (other than anecdotes) about whether a certain safety step truly makes a marked contribution to survival, or is just something that “might” be needed.
Not enough data, but for knives, many serious paddlers still don’t carry them, and their survival and bodily integrity don’t seem to be an issue. You are entirely willing to carry all the knives you want. I would never say that you might not need one sometime. But my own experience doesn’t support such a conclusion.
Very recently, we had a guy posting on p-net who pretty much insisted we were idiots if we didn’t carry a gun when out paddling in the wild. Now, I’ve heard of situations where having a gun might have helped, or it might get you killed by someone who also had a gun. A gun can go off accidentally and shoot you in the foot. A knife can slip in your hand and cut your tendons.
So, I have said that there is not a data based, compelling argument for carrying a knife. It’s a reasonable thing for you to do, if you’ve had need for it in the past. There are situations where I will still carry one, though I find a small folding saw more useful, both for tree limbs and for cutting boat hulls.
Oh, and Freud said, smoking a cigar
in front of a professional audience, that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Really again
You write … HMMMM… None the less you need to make your replies a little less personal and a little more constructive. This is where you are dangerous. Your “phallic” reference lent nothing to this discussion. You need to share the good information only. As I said I’m done with you. Enjoy your cigar.
AND
We all know about Fraud. Actually… I don’t believe he even paddled… BYE
I did not put in the phallic reference
to be personal in any way. No one who sees the tremendous interest in knives amongst men, and the tepid, utilitarian interest in knives amongst women (who actually use them more), could avoid wondering whether there is a gender-related fascination with weapons, or a sex-related fascination with long, pointy objects.
Maybe it’s the weapon thing, I don’t know. I don’t see TV programs with men making their own screwdrivers.
g2d,
“Very recently, we had a guy posting on p-net who pretty much insisted we were idiots if we didn’t carry a gun when out paddling in the wild.”
Who was it that was doing a thing like that, g2d? Can you and will please show us the quotes from the thread in question where this guy ‘pretty much insisted we were idiots if we didn’t carry a gun…’?
No, if you haven’t been paying
attention, then you can pretend it was all in my mind. I’m really not interested in helping you with research.
The problem is the pretending in your…
…mind, g2. I don’t think you can back up your statement that I just quoted from either. If not, you are slandering someone, g2.
I remember the threads, and you can
find them if you want to. You’re the only one bordering on slander here.
You’d better check your memory…
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...as well, because your memory is dead wrong. Look up the thread again, g2. Would you like me to post the link to make it easy for you? Here's the link to it:
http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=1070203
You seem very unwilling to support your strong statement above with real proof when it would be so simple for you to fix that if your memory was so good and you used the supplied link above.
'Libel' is the word in question here. My mistake.
Like your style Red
As a very happy owner of several Boye and Dozier knives, I’ll second your advice. As you know, but may not be clear to others, D2 is not stainless. Bob’s knives are great hunting knives and EDC’s, but I would never let them near salt water.
Dave Boye dendritic cobalt, as you say, can’t rust, since it has no iron/steel in it. I love his knives!!!
Salt water eats D2 . . .
. . . in a hurry!
That’s not the thread, though I remember
that one also. I think your problem is you think I’m talking about you.
Here’s some more g2d…
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Show us which one it is, g2d. Where is it that someone said: "Very recently, we had a guy posting on p-net who pretty much insisted we were idiots if we didn't carry a gun when out paddling in the wild."
Here's the other posts not already mentioned doing a search going back 3 months (is that recent enough for you?) for relevant mentioning of the words 'firearm', 'weapon' and 'gun':
http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=1068545
http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=1070026
http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=1074260
I actually didn't know these all existed, but there sure is an interesting pattern emerging of you and at least one other poster here being complete jerks to anyone mentioning that you 'may want to consider' a weapon. Such arrogance, g2d.
Call it arrogance if you want.
arcticsnowfly backed up a yard or two when a couple of us called him on it. But he was clearly “suggesting” that people would be stupid not to carry a “weapon” when touring the Outer Banks. And that is such a paranoid perception that he deserved to be criticized for it.
Reviewing the thread you cited, I am amazed at how deep you got into the morass of arguing about guns. It’s no wonder you got so touchy about my most recent posts, which did not refer to you at all. You are a pathologically contentious person who cannot separate facts from truth.
I’m pathologically contentious?
If I am, that sure is the pot calling the kettle black. If I am, it’s directed to you and those like you that seem to be so all knowing and arrogant about this issue.
“pathologically contentious”…Another all-knowing diagnosis from afar by the wonderful g2d. And you call me contentious?
Be willing to do a little self-examination and actually critically read some of your own posts, g2d. You might get a little soot off that pot of yours. I’ll work on my kettle.
Again…back up your statement–
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"arcticsnowfly backed up a yard or two when a couple of us called him on it. But he was clearly "suggesting" that people would be stupid not to carry a "weapon" when touring the Outer Banks. And that is such a paranoid perception that he deserved to be criticized for it."
Completely untrue, g2d. articsnowfly did not call anyone stupid for not carrying a weapon.
Here it is again, g2d. Try reading it again and showing us where articsnowfly suggested someone is stupid for not carrying a weapon:
http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=1070026
Yeah, I'm contentious with you because I have to be to get at the truth of your statements.
I stand completely by my statement,
and while we’re on the subject, what sense does it make to recommend any weapon OTHER THAN a gun? So he was being disingenuous as well as repeatedly saying people should carry “a weapon” without at ANY point providing a rationale. Totally phony.
I am absolutely done with this. I will await developments to see if you contribute ANYTHING positive to the world of paddling. Haven’t seen anything but contentious behavior to date.