These “Instructors” have gotten greedy, there is absolutely no fun in that. I am very curious and interested in rolling but I just found out the boat I presently have, (The Santee116, not the Sport) does not lend itself to rolling. The Cockpit is too large and the spray skirt would implode rolling. .
Any paid instructor who would let their political leanings drive away customers/students is not only financially unwise they’re probably not very good instructors because their whole attention isn’t on the instruction they’re giving.
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In other words, they ain’t cool.
To put it nicely
I have undergone DEI training.
Could have fooled my ass. (Edit)
I can’t believe you did not respond to my meme.
They thew me out as incorrigible and unprogrammable. I told them I would never join a club that would havve me as a member.
That is good.
DEI.
“Don’t entertain idiots”.
I went to that class, and got high marks.
Good training.
That is not the one we are talking about.
I guess I missed it
OK fine, I’ll bite. What kind of political rhetoric was it?
Was it like, “Those pesky republicans are re-legalizing dumping PFAS and other trash in the water, and selling off our protected public lands to their friends in big industry” kind of talk?
Or was it like, “don’t call them gay, that’s not acceptable in my class” kind of talk?
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Pulled that one out of the way back machine 
You talking to me?
Are you available? I have a great 1/2 roll already just need to perfect that pesky breathing part.
Available?
As in for a phone call? Or a meeting face to face?
Answer to both is yes, but breathing is largely a matter of relaxation and doesn’t take much instruction one-on-one.
I don’t do very well compared to some of my friends for length of time I can hold my breath and if you are in exertion from paddling hard (say for examples into the wind or against a current) it’s actually hard to control yourself and make yourself hold breath for 10 seconds. But learning a few basics I have found that in most cases you can roll back up in 3-4 seconds. So my 10 second drill for teaching the kids is good because it shows them they CAN hold their breath for that long even when tired, but it’s a mental disciple, not a physical one.
And I have to re-learn and/or polish up my roll every spring because I can’t do any paddling here for 4 to 5 months every year. All our water freezes over in November or December and doesn’t melt off until late March or April. (so available to face to face training is not going to happen for some time – — unless you can show me a way to do it in 2 foot thick ice) That and the fact at early spring water is SUPER cold and because I have no dry-suit, I don’t try any rolling until my wet-suit is good enough for the temps of the water, it means I am only doing rolling from mid or late May to late October. As an “instructor” I am more of a grade school teacher then a “collage instructor”. I know there are a LOT of men and women out there far better suited to instruct then me. I just do it because I can, and what I teach is working for my students, but I am not good enough to instruct at a level of some of the better kayakers out there.
I am good enough to teach all my students how to do it and how to address the basic safety concerns of water temp, wet-exits and reentries and rolling, but JUST (barely) good enough.
I can only judge by my track record, and with only a few students so far, that may not be as reveling as other instructor’s track records.
That said, I have only “failed” to teach 2 students to roll and both of them decided inside about 10 or 20 minutes they didn’t want to try it anymore.
Of all the others I have instructed (so far) all but those 2 have mentioned above learned, and all of them have been rolling in 1 day or less.
Some a lot less.
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We experienced that (Seattle area) and just flew to Mexico to get instruction.
I would think it depends on what geographic location you live in.
I’m sure we could find some group if we looked hard enough but we always have shorter timelines.
The paddle groups that wanted to see your vaccine records was the final thing that convinced us that maybe we just don’t belong (and that’s fine with us also)
Sometimes when you feel you don’t belong, it’s because you don’t. 
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